Token 1841 Webster L63- HT21
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This is out of what I normally see so that in part is the reason for the question... So this token has a die crack that extends from rim to rim across the side of the coin that features the ship under sail. The die crack is obviously significant and I suspect other examples exist... So my first question is where are they? And that is followed by how many exist because this simply cannot be the first reported example.
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Question: Are the legends on each side "Metallic Currency" and "Credit Currency" or does one of them end with Current?
How about some photos?
I have a couple of these tokens - not sure if they have a die crack or not,
They had some great political stuff back then - some of those Hard Times Tokens were pretty brutal. The one about Jackson coms to mind, also.
Neither side has current. But to describe this, a significant break starts at the second c in currency that extends through the fields and into the sails and across through the ship and into the E of credit to the other side of the rim.
And the main reason I posted this is because someone somewhere likely has an interest in die varieties that would appreciate reading about this... And I suspect those that have an interest likely already know about this. However, in the event there is no prior knowledge, ther is now
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If both sides say Currency instead of Current, then you do not have a L-60/HT-18 but rather either L-63/HT-21 (most probable) or L-64/HT-22. The die crack on Low-63/HT-21 is well known and shows up on many examples as either a partial crack from the foresail to the second C of Currency or on later die states as a crack across the whole planchet. In fact, the large image in the Rulau Hard Times catalog (Ninth Edition) shows the partial crack and the color image in Whitman's "A Guide Book Of Hard Times Tokens" of Low-63/HT-21 shows the die crack completely across the planchet. It has probably not been previously mentioned because 1) it is not a Low-60 in question, and 2) it is almost expected to be seen on Low-63.
(Low-64/HT-22 in later die states also can show extensive die cracks but not as bold as the lengthy one on Low-63/HT-21).
Thanks tokenpro... Not to beat this to death, the die break is extensive and extends across the diameter of the coin. The break is very bold at rhe second c in currency and the E in credit that goes to the rim at both ends... so it seems likely that the Low-63/HT-21 is most probable. The token itself likely grades in the VF30 range...perhaps 35. It has a pleasing look for the grade.
One final comment... It is really encouraging to see this type of a response... Thanks again
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Oh @Broadstruck calling Mr. Broadstruck
Not only will he give you history, he prolly has one or two....lol
However, I do know what you are talking about and just saw one listed for sale
but, can’t remember where....sorry. But if I remember correctly I do not think that many exist.
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Sounds like a HT-21 which is the one Webster variety known to only have been struck with a faulty obverse die. Ship looks like the HT-22 but missing the front sail. Tough in AU/MS grades and wrongly designated as HT-22 by all grading services along with HT-22's wrongly as HT-21. So pop reports by all grading services are useless for gauging scarcity on the whole Webster series.
@Kaz should have photos of a HT21.