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Can anyone tell me about how much these are worth?

These are my father-in-laws who has advanced dementia. Trying to give some answers as to value to his wife.











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    cladkingcladking Posts: 28,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sense it's a fairly valuable set but without being able to see reverses and dates all I can say is it's worth between a few hundred and a few thousand. I like the '71 half dollar but it might have unseen problems that make it a 75c coin.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! Rather than trying to go through everything, I recommend purchasing the Red Book from Whitman Publishing. It’s inexpensive and will help you identify what is valuable and what isn’t. A lot of the coins in the pictures are not particularly valuable but there are some that are better.

    The prices you will see in places like the Red Book are retail pricing so a dealer or collector will not typically pay that price. After you find some pieces that seem to be of value in the Red Book, please feel free to post a picture of those specific coins and the people here will be quite helpful.

    I wish you luck and best wishes to your family during this time.

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    BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2020 1:16PM

    You do have some decent coins in all of that. Chances are that you will have to obtain some local help or go to nearby dealers for bids. It is worth a couple of hours of your time, but not dozens of hours.

    If you are an Antiques person (as your name suggests), ask your acquaintances in that field if they know any 'fair and square' coins specialists.

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2020 1:53PM

    Welcome to the CU forums @antiqueink.

    Interesting album and it appears it was carefully made. (Pre-made)

    Obtaining a good resource (Red Book) would be a good start for a rough estimate. Seeking help from LCS is also another good possibility.

    Be prepared. There maybe a few coins in that album that are not quite... “correct.”

    Edit: Reference material

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12111024/#Comment_12111024

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The official name for the Red Book is "A Guide Book of United States Coins" 73rd edition, 2020. This is a book you need to buy. It is easily available at most large bookstores or online.

    You have some worthwhile coins in that set so spending $17.95 or such on a Red Book would be a good idea.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2020 2:49PM

    Several of the coins are in the $20 - $50 range, with a few a little higher.
    The half cents and large cents are in this range, as are the 2c and 3c silver.
    The 1838 half dime looks like it's in AU grade; if so, worth over $100.
    The Barber dime looks high grade as well.
    As does the 1917-1924 quarter.
    If you can supply larger photos of both sides of the above coins, I can give you better estimates.
    For example, the PCGS Price Guide says an 1838 half dime in a PCGS holder graded AU-55 sells for around $235 retail.
    https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/liberty-seated-half-dime/93/most-active
    Also most of the coins dated after 1964 are worth about face value.

    So, similar to what @cladking wrote, probably worth in the $500 - $1000 range total, retail.
    If selling to a dealer, you might be offered 60-75% of that.

    Sorry to hear about your father-in-law's dementia.

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    THose early large cents, are they very much?

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    BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cover price of the spiral bound Red Book is $15.95 - available at most popular books stores:

    Highly recommended.

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    Just ordered the book on Amazon.

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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree there are some common coins there but there are also some very nice looking coins that might be a higher value so do not just offer up a general number without a little diligence.

    Please take some better pics, both obverse and reverse of some of the coins you can identify as being a higher value so some of the educated in those series can give you a better opinion.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @antiqueink said:
    Just ordered the book on Amazon.

    You can't go wrong. Best of luck to you.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a really nice looking set. I like it a lot. I agree with the comments above. The red book will give you an idea of what things are worth. The hardest part will be for you to determine what the grade of each coin is so you know which price to estimate for each coin. In addition, the value you could sell them to a dealer for will generally be about 60-70% of the red book prices. When I do appraisals, I will give the retail price (red book) and then a wholesale price (Usually about 60% of retail but not always). Silver coins do have an inherent bullion value so the 60% amount is just a general rule so take it with a grain of salt. I'm sure others on the board may have different values but it is fairly simple for most coins once you figure out the grade. Most of the coins in the set look to be fairly nice grades so that is good.

    The biggest problem is most non coin folks think the coins are much higher grades than they actually are so they also think the coins are worth a lot more. Some coin prices really jump in higher grades so keep that in mind. In general, being conservative and getting a nice surprise is better than over valuing a coin collection.

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Figure it out yourself. That's the fun part. Then try to get what you figured out their worth. That's the not so fun part.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2020 3:48PM

    Thank you for the additional photos.

    THose early large cents, are they very much?

    Yes, those are some nice ones.

    Here are my grades and value estimates on the half cents and large cents.
    half cent 1800 F-12 $215 retail if in a PCGS graded holder
    half cent 1809 VF-20 $120 " " "
    half cent 1849 VF-30 $125 " " "
    https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/braided-hair-half-cent/655/most-active
    large cent 1801 F-12 small scratches? $325 retail if in PCGS holder and not scratched. If scratched, maybe $100?
    large cent 1808 VG-10 $390 " " "
    large cent 1817 13 stars EF-40 $260 " " "
    https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/coronet-head-cent/662/most-active

    So those are max values, if they were in graded PCGS holders.
    These are "raw", so retail values are probably more like:
    half cent 1800 F-12 $192
    half cent 1809 VF-20 $132
    half cent 1849 VF-30 $110
    http://www.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices/cgi/usrarecoinvalues.cgi?script=hlfcnt&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search4=any&proof=&plus=
    large cent 1801 F-12 small scratches? $450 retail if not scratched. If scratched, maybe $100?
    large cent 1808 VG-10 $300
    large cent 1817 13 stars EF-40 $270
    http://www.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices/cgi/usrarecoinvalues.cgi?script=lrgcnt&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search4=any&proof=&plus=
    Some of these values in the numismedia price guide look a bit high.
    For more accurate results, you could check completed sales on ebay.
    But the above should give you some ball park estimates.
    Plus it's hard to get retail value; try more like 60-75% of that if selling to a dealer.
    No world cruise, but looks in the $1100+ range retail, $700-900 if you sell,
    just for the large cents and half cents.
    Perhaps $600+ more for the 1838 half dime, 2c, 3c, barber dime, 1917-1924 quarter.

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great photos!

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    rmorganrmorgan Posts: 249 ✭✭✭✭

    I like the album and how it holds/displays the coins. Does anyone know what type it is? Is it custom? Is it something one can order?

    My strategy is about collecting what I intend to keep, not investing in what I plan to sell.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rmorgan said:
    I like the album and how it holds/displays the coins. Does anyone know what type it is? Is it custom? Is it something one can order?

    It's called a CAPS album.
    https://www.capsalbums.com/
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=325664
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=240742#240742

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    CommencentsCommencents Posts: 349 ✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:

    @rmorgan said:
    I like the album and how it holds/displays the coins. Does anyone know what type it is? Is it custom? Is it something one can order?

    It's called a CAPS album.
    https://www.capsalbums.com/
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=325664
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=240742#240742

    Great appraisal on the coins @yosclimber !

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2020 7:39PM

    It looks to me like someone had a lot of fun assembling that set. None of them appear to be super-valuable, but each example seems to be well though-out and is reasonably nice. Sets like this are the heart and soul of coin collecting.

    Most random sets that get presented here contain lots of coins that have obvious problems. Your photographs are much better than what we usually see too. :) The values given here by others are probably pretty good. With sets like this, 80% of the value is in 20% of the coins.

    If you take them to a dealer, you might get a fair offer or a real low-ball offer. Most dealers are top-notch guys and are just looking to make a fair profit. A few are predatory and will try to steal them. If you want to sell, get two or three offers. If you give us your general geographic location, I'm sure some members here will know some trustworthy dealers in your area.

    Sorry to hear about your father-in-law. Dementia is hard on everyone.

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    @yosclimber said:
    Thank you for the additional photos.

    THose early large cents, are they very much?

    Yes, those are some nice ones.

    Here are my grades and value estimates on the half cents and large cents.
    half cent 1800 F-12 $215 retail if in a PCGS graded holder
    half cent 1809 VF-20 $120 " " "
    half cent 1849 VF-30 $125 " " "
    https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/braided-hair-half-cent/655/most-active
    large cent 1801 F-12 small scratches? $325 retail if in PCGS holder and not scratched. If scratched, maybe $100?
    large cent 1808 VG-10 $390 " " "
    large cent 1817 13 stars EF-40 $260 " " "
    https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/coronet-head-cent/662/most-active

    So those are max values, if they were in graded PCGS holders.
    These are "raw", so retail values are probably more like:
    half cent 1800 F-12 $192
    half cent 1809 VF-20 $132
    half cent 1849 VF-30 $110
    http://www.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices/cgi/usrarecoinvalues.cgi?script=hlfcnt&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search4=any&proof=&plus=
    large cent 1801 F-12 small scratches? $450 retail if not scratched. If scratched, maybe $100?
    large cent 1808 VG-10 $300
    large cent 1817 13 stars EF-40 $270
    http://www.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices/cgi/usrarecoinvalues.cgi?script=lrgcnt&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search4=any&proof=&plus=
    Some of these values in the numismedia price guide look a bit high.
    For more accurate results, you could check completed sales on ebay.
    But the above should give you some ball park estimates.
    Plus it's hard to get retail value; try more like 60-75% of that if selling to a dealer.
    No world cruise, but looks in the $1100+ range retail, $700-900 if you sell,
    just for the large cents and half cents.
    Perhaps $600+ more for the 1838 half dime, 2c, 3c, barber dime, 1917-1924 quarter.

    Thank you so much.

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While many of your coins are very old and exhibit excellent original characteristics as always I advise anyone new to coins to DO NOT clean them in any way. Similarly, just the process of pulling out the plastic sliders of an album requires great care since the coins can get scratched by the plastic.

    Yosclimber has provided some excellent guidance. I'd strongly consider having some of the coins discussed encapsulated. While there's a significant cost involved it's the very best way to realize max value if your intention is to sell the coins.

    Your photos are satisfactory for E-Bay sales with very little adjustment.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 15,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WoW! Beautiful type sets, dude! Esp. the Drapes. Very valuable. B)

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    tincuptincup Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That looks like a fairly nice set with what appear to be nice original condition coins. There is some value in it. Use due diligence before selling some of the early ones.

    As mentioned... do NOT try to clean or improve any of the coins. Also, when removing any coins, use proper handling methods (handling by edges only).

    Does look like a neat album!

    ----- kj
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    savitalesavitale Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a much nicer collection than most of the “What’s it worth?” posts. Assessing the rough value by Red Book is definitely the way to go. You will get a fun introduction to coin collecting at the same time. This is a set to be proud of. I hope you choose to keep it in the family.

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    mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As most have said, looks like someone did a pretty good job piecing together a type set. From the pictures, none of us could give you a real price on all but the common issues. Someone would have to look at them for mint marks, possible cleaning, reverse condition, etc... the entire collection is not worthless and worth the time to do a little homework> @Commencents said:

    @yosclimber said:

    @rmorgan said:
    I like the album and how it holds/displays the coins. Does anyone know what type it is? Is it custom? Is it something one can order?

    It's called a CAPS album.
    https://www.capsalbums.com/
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=325664
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=240742#240742

    Great appraisal on the coins @yosclimber !

    Agree, that was a nice thing to do for someone in a situation they could not realistically do on their own. I would have done the same but my knowledge of old copper coinage is extremely limited.

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    rip_frip_f Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    Why would a type coin album of this quality have only one Morgan dollar?
    And describe the Morgan series as ' 1900 - 1921'? (As well as all the Barber series coins ' 1900 - )

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow a very nice type set, all the advice above is on point, the only bit of advice I'll add is to use the photo grade that PCGS provides here as a tool to help you in determining the grades of the coins you have.
    https://pcgs.com/photograde

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    rmorganrmorgan Posts: 249 ✭✭✭✭

    I want to add one thing to consider. I feel a coin set is about more than a dollar value...

    A set like this shows a lot of thought and care from its creator. This set reflects a lot of him and his thoughts before your father-in-law was being changed by dementia. To me, this is one item I would retain as a tribute and keepsake of who he was. This completed set reflects his thoughts, decisions, and persistence as he pursued a passion that was important to him.

    If the family doesn't really need the money, consider someone keeping it for the time being. Maybe even reading up on some of the coins to better understand his passion and thoughts.

    My strategy is about collecting what I intend to keep, not investing in what I plan to sell.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rip_f said:
    Why would a type coin album of this quality have only one Morgan dollar?
    And describe the Morgan series as ' 1900 - 1921'? (As well as all the Barber series coins ' 1900 - )

    The section you are seeing is labeled as the 1900 and 2000 type section, thus coins dated 1900 and forward. I am guessing that the section labeled as 1800's type set has slot/slots for Morgans dated up to 1899, a photo of that section of the book wasn't provided by the op.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This set is far nicer than typical, but I can tell right away that some of these coins have surface issues or have been previously cleaned. This is typical of the apparently more valuable pieces. There isn't a ton of money in this set, but it isn't something to sneeze at, either. If you just go by details grades then you will overvalue the set, so it might be best to have someone familiar with coins view them in-hand, as well. Good luck.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Wow a very nice type set, all the advice above is on point, the only bit of advice I'll add is to use the photo grade that PCGS provides here as a tool to help you in determining the grades of the coins you have.
    https://pcgs.com/photograde

    That's good advice............

    I heartily agree.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon

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