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Need advice on crossover from NCG to PCGS - 1883 S Morgan

Please take a look at this coin and let me know what grade you think it is. I am debating sending it in to PCGS for crossover in any grade. I will post NCG grade after advice results. Thanks


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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1, 2020 11:54AM

    Obv is a bit rough, rev is much better.... Overall a 63 at best.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1, 2020 11:52AM

    My guess is MS62, though the first set of images had me considering AU58.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    Bigbuck1975Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 to my eyes. Seems to be a touch of rub.

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    fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 943 ✭✭✭✭

    In an attempt to gain [I don't know what] you may lose value in that coin. I see it as a coin with slightest friction and one that is expensive in mint state. If it is a straight grade I would just keep it.

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    Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not very experienced at grading but I'll take a broad guess @ MS 60 - 62

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    FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a 58 to me.
    Possibly graded 62.

    If it's graded 62 or better, I'd leave it alone.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At best, a 62. Leave it in the holder, sell it and buy the one you want in PCGS plastic if that is what you want.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 58 to me. If it's currently graded 61 or 62, sell it and buy a PCGS 61 or 62 if that's what you want.

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You'd be better off with a CAC sticker on it as is.

    thefinn
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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would call that an AU-61 from the picture. Looks like it might have rub but I’m not sure. The cheek is pretty rough. Could be 58 or 61. Maybe 62 if it looks better in person.

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    ElectricityElectricity Posts: 318 ✭✭✭✭

    I was going to go MS62, lots of contact marks on obverse and looks like some rub as well.

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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Major969

    Let us all know how the cross goes, please.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 shot 61

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    58 shot 61

    This

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60-61 commercial grade. I see a 55-58 at PCGS.

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree 55 - 58 based on obv

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    60-61 commercial grade. I see a 55-58 at PCGS.

    +1

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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 63 as is. Pcgs crossover 61

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    bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2020 5:01AM

    I was told in the last couple months here the Tpg's go more on the obverse than the reverse. If that's the case, AU 58. It won't cross any higher, to much chatter on cheek.

    Ken
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 58 to me.

    When in doubt, don't.
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks 62 based on wear, but I would worry more about the somewhat cleaned look of the reverse. It might be the photo, but if it looks like that in hand, that could well knock it down or knock it out.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The gray luster breaks in the fields and the rub just about everywhere tells me it's an AU58.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, looks 58 to me.

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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ms60 - ms62

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    Thanks to each of you for the reply's and advice. I think I will continue to enjoy it as is and leave it in the NCG holder at its MS 62 grade.

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hope for 58 it's worth than a 60-61.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Major969 said:
    Thanks to each of you for the reply's and advice. I think I will continue to enjoy it as is and leave it in the NCG holder at its MS 62 grade.

    Instead of doing a cross "at any grade", it might be worth attempting a straight cross. If you succeed, you'd more than recoup the cost. Plus almost all coins look much better in PCGS plastic, IMHO.

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    matt_dacmatt_dac Posts: 963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would never pay to cross NGC to PCGS or vice versa. Both are perfectly acceptable to me if I like the coin.

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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS AU 58 no higher.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2020 1:45PM

    I won’t pay to cross NGC to PCGS unless seeking upgrade. A large part of my slab inventory NGC (about 40 pct). I would go broke playing the crossover game lol. As far as somebody else it’s their call / their money.

    Blue sheet for MS62 1883-S dol 1000 PCGs, 1080 NGC. Keep as is. Greysheet for this issue is 1150. My selling price online or show wb $1450 (solid quality coin) whether PCGS or NGC. PQ A coins may be priced more, average quality C coins less. My pricing is based on MY opinion of the COIN and my assessment of where it falls in the grade range along with current market conditions / demand.

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