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1831 Bust Half Dollar AU-details sells for $4,550.00.....?????????

The variety seems fairly common, a high grade AU with green verdigris on the reverse on the letters "O" and "R". Coin was sitting at $200 with 5 seconds left in the auction until (2) bidders raised it to $4,550.00..........What did these two bidders see that I didn't?:

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/333388296349?item=333388296349&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A guy with really deep pockets

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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like O.120 which is R6

    Dave

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    @drddm said:
    Looks like O.120 which is R6

    Dave

    o-120 has a bulge in the obverse field and a spike on the reverse highest olive leaf.....This coin shows neither.

  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from the seller’s pics

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 9:00PM

    @drddm said:
    Hard to tell from the seller’s pics

    1st I thought it was 2 people messing with the buyer, than I thought maybe they thought it was the o-120, than I thought maybe it was a circulated proof.........I have a feeling it's none of my thoughts, maybe it was the ambien I had last night. lol

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    A guy with really deep pockets

    It would take two guys with really deep pockets.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "A great chance for any coin collector to get this nice piece without breaking the bank!"

    Ironic.

    If I were the seller I would refuse to take payment via PayPal. Imagine eating the fee in this case, for the buyers mistake when they inevitably force a return, if it's not anything special.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 11:27PM

    It's an R6- O.120. If genuine.
    Lance.

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    For those interested, an Overton-120 is described as having, "a tine off the upper olive leaf and a large die bulge in the left obverse field." As can easily be seen, on this well worn example, the obverse bulge and reverse tine are prominent:

    The coin in the listing has no bulge on the obv nor any sign of the tine on the reverse:

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Plus the star #13 in the first coin is near the top of the segment and the seller's coin shows it between segments

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's an overlay using a high grade O.120 (AU58) from PCGS and the ebay coin. (FWIW, overlays are rarely perfect due to imperfect camera angles, coin rotation, etc.)

    Again, I'm not saying it's genuine.
    Lance.

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully, this side by side will clear this up:

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    money to burn (not ours either)

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:
    Hopefully, this side by side will clear this up:

    Perhaps an earlier state of the dies?

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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:

    Perhaps an earlier state of the dies?

    That's what I was thinking. That "spike" could certainly have been acquired after some period of use without it...and a die bulge just screams "old die". All positional information seems to indicate it COULD be the rare variety.

    So, to prove it isn't, you'd need to find a different Overton that DOES match this coin....or assume it's a new variety, (which would be even a better deal, me thinks). I don't have the book, or background, to prove anything myself. :blush:

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To each his own.

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reminds me of the peak years on Ebay (2003 to 2005).

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