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It's in a fresh new NGC slab

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  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2019 7:51AM
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    @basetsb said:
    It's in a fresh new NGC slab

    Hmm... interesting triangle toning. Or, lack of...

  • P0CKETCHANGE
    P0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Morgan The Grey?

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • blitzdude
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    Personally I would've dipped her between the slab change.

    Guess the nasty does help conceal the details scratches. Congrats!

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  • basetsb
    basetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @basetsb said:
    It's in a fresh new NGC slab

    Curiously, why did you get it graded?

    Because it looks cool

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  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2019 8:49AM
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    It would also look cool raw, in an airtite, or flip.

    However, as an extremely minor shareholder in TPG grading services, I encourage submissions.

  • Purfrock
    Purfrock Posts: 545 ✭✭✭
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    Nice coin. Congrats

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  • BryceM
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    @basetsb said:
    you guys are pretty rough today.

    True, but I’m the sort of guy that might buy a slabbed coin and crack it out to put it in a Dansco 7070.

  • basetsb
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    @BryceM said:

    @basetsb said:
    you guys are pretty rough today.

    True, but I’m the sort of guy that might buy a slabbed coin and crack it out to put it in a Dansco 7070.

    theres nothing wrong with that

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  • Hallco
    Hallco Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The grade was consistent:

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @basetsb said:
    you guys are pretty rough today.

    Rough in pointing out that you could still enjoy the coin and sav> @basetsb said:

    you guys are pretty rough today.

    No intent to be tough. Just pointing out that at that (or even the next grade level), the cost of grading and postage would be more than any added value to the coin. But as another poster pointed out, what matters is if you’re happy with it. Enjoy.

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  • fiftysevener
    fiftysevener Posts: 943 ✭✭✭✭
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    So originally in NGC holder then PCGS details then back to NGC straight grade ?

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Someone say happiness is free money?

    :D:)

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

  • topstuf
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    @MrBluster said:
    Nice coin. Looks like she’s wearing one of those Coolie hats.

    Devo

  • thefinn
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    @topstuf said:

    @MrBluster said:
    Nice coin. Looks like she’s wearing one of those Coolie hats.

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  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    Plenty of other people have, and if you weren’t already aware of it, you should get out more.

    Thanks Mark, I get out plenty.....enough to know that PCGS is the slab where good coins go to stay! ;) Have a good day. B)

  • CuKevin
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    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    I’ve had that scenario happen plenty of times. One example from NGC Env Damage to PCGS straight grade.

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  • DIMEMAN
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    @CuKevin said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    I’ve had that scenario happen plenty of times. One example from NGC Env Damage to PCGS straight grade.

    I will take PCGS's opinion over ngc EVERY TIME...…..so does the MARKET!!! :)

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @CuKevin said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    I’ve had that scenario happen plenty of times. One example from NGC Env Damage to PCGS straight grade.

    I will take PCGS's opinion over ngc EVERY TIME...…..so does the MARKET!!! :)

    Which PCGS opinion do you take when a PCGS coin is regraded and grades higher?

    You're what is called a "stirrer". You like to pick and choose to help and try to make "your" point. Sticking to this thread......the coin in the OP clearly has scratches and should be in a detail holder as stated by PCGS. It's still the same problem coin in a ngc straight holder. And when/if the OP goes to sell this coin I sure hope the buyer knows what he is getting.

  • koynekwest
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    @MrBluster said:
    Nice coin. Looks like she’s wearing one of those Coolie hats.

    That it does!

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @CuKevin said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    I’ve had that scenario happen plenty of times. One example from NGC Env Damage to PCGS straight grade.

    I will take PCGS's opinion over ngc EVERY TIME...…..so does the MARKET!!! :)

    Which PCGS opinion do you take when a PCGS coin is regraded and grades higher?

    You're what is called a "stirrer". You like to pick and choose to help and try to make "your" point. Sticking to this thread......the coin in the OP clearly has scratches and should be in a detail holder as stated by PCGS. It's still the same problem coin in a ngc straight holder. And when/if the OP goes to sell this coin I sure hope the buyer knows what he is getting.

    Yes, the coin clearly has scratches. And scratches are apparent on a great many coins graded mint state by both PCGS and NGC. As I have posted on multiple occasions, often, the decision whether to assign a straight grade vs. a details grade is as or more difficult/subjective than the decision as to what straight grade to assign to a problem-free coin.

    Both PCGS and NGC have graded countless coins higher than the one another and both have straight-graded many coins that the other has details-graded. But your posts make it appear that you don't understand or acknowledge those facts.

    I completely understand and agree with what you are saying. I just feel that PCGS makes fewer mistakes than ngc. Also are you counting hairlines the same as scratches. Are smaller scratches looked at differently. Does the location of said scratch affect weather or not a detail grade is given. These are all questions that I am sure come into play. Also older coins like Bust coins are given more leeway. Bottom line to me is I prefer PCGS over ngc. If I see a coin I like and need in a ngc holder I will of course buy it and then cross to PCGS.

  • Ebeneezer
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    @DIMEMAN said:

    I will take PCGS's opinion over ngc EVERY TIME...…..so does the MARKET!!! :)

    Right on. Much more consistent and less forgiving than NGC. There's a reason why the late night coin show guys peddle NGC exclusively. This is, of course, my opinion and preference.

    On the subject, and the Morgan, obviously the man is happy with what he got. Is that any different than the enjoyment of guy who possesses a million dollar Morgan? In other words everything else is just an opinion.

  • MasonG
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    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    It happens. Accept the fact, or don't- it's up to you.

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coinbuf said:

    @MasonG said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    It happens. Accept the fact, or don't- it's up to you.

    PCGS could make a public statement saying that they make mistakes and dimeman would refute it; he is that immersed in the koolaid.

    It's not koolaid……..it's a fact! PCGS is better that ngc! ;)

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Certainly is interesting!

    Collector, occasional seller

  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DIMEMAN said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @MasonG said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    It happens. Accept the fact, or don't- it's up to you.

    PCGS could make a public statement saying that they make mistakes and dimeman would refute it; he is that immersed in the koolaid.

    It's not koolaid……..it's a fact! PCGS is better that ngc! ;)

  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @koynekwest said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @MasonG said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    All I see is a coin with problems that PCGS called correctly so you send to ngc to get a straight grade. This just about says it all about the hobby (to some) and ngc.

    Do you say the same about the hobby and PCGS when NGC details coins get into straight grade PCGS holders ? Or do you cover your eyes and pretend otherwise when that happens?

    I have never had that happen. Actually I have never even tried to do that. The thing is that there is a reason PCGS is # 1. :)B)

    It happens. Accept the fact, or don't- it's up to you.

    PCGS could make a public statement saying that they make mistakes and dimeman would refute it; he is that immersed in the koolaid.

    It's not koolaid……..it's a fact! PCGS is better that ngc! ;)

    I totally agree with you.

  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    From a scratched, details coin in a PCGS holder to a problem free NGC holder. Everyone has an opinion. Was the "scratch" caused by a staple on the cheek? If you like it, that is what matters.

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  • basetsb
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    @oih82w8 said:
    From a scratched, details coin in a PCGS holder to a problem free NGC holder. Everyone has an opinion. Was the "scratch" caused by a staple on the cheek? If you like it, that is what matters.

    It's a 'scrape' of some kind. Something scraped it while it was on the end of the roll. Perhaps another coin?

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  • basetsb
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    @oih82w8 said:
    From a scratched, details coin in a PCGS holder to a problem free NGC holder. Everyone has an opinion. Was the "scratch" caused by a staple on the cheek? If you like it, that is what matters.

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  • coin4sale
    coin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭
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    Far out far East toning.
    Enjoy

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  • Peace_dollar88
    Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice wizard. Just in time for Halloween

  • BLUEJAYWAY
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    It looks like the Lady is wearing a tin foil hat.

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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @basetsb said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    From a scratched, details coin in a PCGS holder to a problem free NGC holder. Everyone has an opinion. Was the "scratch" caused by a staple on the cheek? If you like it, that is what matters.

    I was simply going by CoinFacts description;

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