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are there more men than women in the coin hobby.

were are the women collectors at.

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  • lonn47lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    i can say two for sure,, more i cant say lets do the poll,, thank you

  • lonn47lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    sounds about right.. thanks you, john 2000

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There here and about.

    As for numbers, that is a good question. Maybe a poll?

  • lonn47lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    really what happen to the women in the coin hobby,,,, i wish there were more women in this hobby.

  • John2000John2000 Posts: 81 ✭✭✭

    I went with 10. Of course if less woman, the ratio would be greater.

    I may not know what I'm doing most of the time, but I'm Damn good at it. 😇 😈

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin collecting is a very Male dominated hobby. I guess its not cool enough for (most of) the ladies. :D

    But there are few notable exceptions. ;)

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    are there more men than women gun owners?
    Race car drivers?
    Beer drinkers?
    Gangsters?

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • CollectorBonEZCollectorBonEZ Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 1:46PM

    @MilesWaits said:
    are there more men than women gun owners?
    Race car drivers?
    Beer drinkers?
    Gangsters?

    Definitely more woman gangsters. At least 5:1 women to men

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s rumored that actress Nicole Kidman, who has starred in such films as Days Of Thunder and Batman Forever, is a collector of ancient coins.

    Known for her starring role as Laverne De Fazio in the 1970s classic TV sitcom Laverne & Shirley and more recently as a successful movie director, Penny Marshall has been known to collect coins.

    https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/coin_collectors/

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kim Kardashian, diva, is known to collect cash, only.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I have many woman clients.

    Caught female fish are not clients ;)

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say less than 5% form my experience doing coin shows and that might be an over statement.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This lopsided participation isn't just with gender, but from anecdotal evidence even more so between demographic groups.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I have many woman clients.

    Caught female fish are not clients ;)

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Broadstruck said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I have many woman clients.

    Caught female fish are not clients ;)

    Touché your point has been made :p

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd say it's more like 95% male to 5% female, if that.

    It's always interesting for me to go to coin conventions and space conventions. I'd say at best in coin conventions you're talking about 5% female. Space conventions, which after all deal with a technical field, but a technical field that is considered "cool", are roughly 2 to 1 males to females.

  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just think about the impact that increased female participation could have on the market as a whole 🤔. There’s no reason why it should be so male dominated. Im hoping my daughter will take an interest in the hobby as she gets older. I suppose she first needs to learn to walk and talk though.

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmm these estimates are much higher than my first thought which was about one in thirty coin collectors are female.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    I've heard that more women collectors are online than at coin shows or clubs.

    I wonder how many major women coin pedigrees there are.

    you know the answer to that: almost none. "major pedigrees" are known, are they not?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 6:12PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Zoins said:
    I've heard that more women collectors are online than at coin shows or clubs.

    I wonder how many major women coin pedigrees there are.

    you know the answer to that: almost none. "major pedigrees" are known, are they not?

    Major pedigrees are known but some of them are anonymous. I was just wondering if Tyrant was a woman? For tokens, I wonder if the Pennsylvania Cabinet is a man or a woman?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Zoins said:
    I've heard that more women collectors are online than at coin shows or clubs.

    I wonder how many major women coin pedigrees there are.

    you know the answer to that: almost none. "major pedigrees" are known, are they not?

    Major pedigrees are known but some of them are anonymous. I was just wondering if Tyrant was a woman? For tokens, I wonder if the Pennsylvania Cabinet is a man or a woman?

    I've always seen the Tyrant collector referred to as a "he". There isn't really any reason to assume it's a woman, is there?

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think there are more women in this hobby then 10-1. They may not appear in public numismatic events but there are more.

    Just a gut opinion.

  • tokenprotokenpro Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:
    It’s rumored that actress Nicole Kidman, who has starred in such films as Days Of Thunder and Batman Forever, is a collector of ancient coins.

    Known for her starring role as Laverne De Fazio in the 1970s classic TV sitcom Laverne & Shirley and more recently as a successful movie director, Penny Marshall has been known to collect coins.

    https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/coin_collectors/

    Michelle Johnson's auction purchase of an 1894S 10c for $70,400 made the front page of Coin World but the story behind the win as related to me by someone at the sale is one of my favorite coin stories of all time.

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 7:27PM

    Mrs. Emery Mae Holden Norweb of Cleveland was a very great coin collector in her own right, one of the greatest numismatists of the 20th Century. She had both the advantage of substantial wealth and a doting father (or grandfather?) who was a coin person, but she was a very very great collector herself. She had a towering intellect, and she should not be forgotten.

    https://case.edu/ech/articles/n/norweb-emery-may-holden

    The Norweb pedigree refers to her, and she had obtained many top coins from the heirs of Virgil Brand.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    plenty of women collectors at less sophisticated levels. Both my grandmothers had some interest in collecting. Lady friends as well would save interesting coins from change.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not your question, but the gals in the hobby that I've encountered seem to be pretty sharp. Guys.... well, some of them are too. :)

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 7:43PM

    @BillDugan1959 said:
    Mrs. Emery Mae Holden Norweb of Cleveland was a very great coin collector in her own right, one of the greatest numismatists of the 20th Century. She had both the advantage of substantial wealth and a doting father (or grandfather?) who was a coin person, but she was a very very great collector herself. She had a towering intellect, and she should not be forgotten.

    https://case.edu/ech/articles/n/norweb-emery-may-holden

    The Norweb pedigree refers to her, and she had obtained many top coins from the heirs of Virgil Brand.

    For Raymond Henry Norweb, Wikipedia says the following about his numismatic memberships. Was Emery a member of any numismatic societies? Of note, Wikipedia doesn't have a page on Emery Norweb... yet.

    Henry Norweb and his wife Emery were both noted experts on world and U.S. coins.[4] R. Henry Norweb Sr. was a member of the American Numismatic Society, the Royal Numismatic Society, the Canadian Numismatic Association, and the New York Numismatic Club. He was a member of the American Numismatic Society, serving on that body's Council from 1960 until 1978. In the latter year Henry Norweb was appointed an honorary Life Councillor to the ANS.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 8:01PM

    Of course, we cannot forget the great collector of 3 cent silvers, Laura Sperber!

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins IMHO, Mrs. Norweb was the wheel in that couple. She was very lucky to find such a compatible spouse who himself had a solid career as a diplomat. Mrs. Norweb had the great wealth, although her husband was from a very respectable family. QDB has written quite a lot about Mrs. Norweb, including a funny story where Walter Breen's chocolate candy bar once got stuck to the back of Mrs. Norweb's expensive fur coat during her visit to look at coins for sale. All the parties involved simply allowed Mrs. Norweb to depart the venue without informing her of the mishap!

    I am reasonably certain that Mrs. Norweb's numismatic memberships were many, but the Norwebs were probably most closely connected to the ANS. Mrs. Norweb herself was a great officer and patroness of the Cleveland Museum of Art. That institution is very well worth visiting, excellent collections including coins.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 8:38PM

    @BillDugan1959 said:
    @Zoins IMHO, Mrs. Norweb was the wheel in that couple. She was very lucky to find such a compatible spouse who himself had a solid career as a diplomat. Mrs. Norweb had the great wealth, although her husband was from a very respectable family. QDB has written quite a lot about Mrs. Norweb, including a funny story where Walter Breen's chocolate candy bar once got stuck to the back of Mrs. Norweb's expensive fur coat during her visit to look at coins for sale. All the parties involved simply allowed Mrs. Norweb to depart the venue without informing her of the mishap!

    I am reasonably certain that Mrs. Norweb's numismatic memberships were many, but the Norwebs were probably most closely connected to the ANS. Mrs. Norweb herself was a great officer and patroness of the Cleveland Museum of Art. That institution is very well worth visiting, excellent collections including coins.

    Good to know.

    PCGS offers the book "The Norweb Collection - An American Legacy" by Michael Hodder and Q. David Bowers online:

    https://www.pcgs.com/books/norweb/chapter03/2

    Hodder and QDB's book has the following photo of Emery:

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will offer up this photo, from the Internet but I am not certain who may have the rights to it:

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 8:44PM

    Comparing the photos of Emery from 1909 (from the Hodder/QDB book) and 1973 when she's addressing the ANS in 1973 is amazing. What a long and amazing life.

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 9:02PM

    @Zoins I've already read several chapters of the Norweb book that you linked. Super interesting. Mr. and Mrs. Norweb met and married in France during the First World War, and then they arrived in Japan as diplomat and wife just ten days after the Great Tokyo Earthquake of 1923. Much better than having actually been there during that unexpected destruction!

    P.S. I actually need to add that Mrs. Norweb appeared on the television show 'Jeopardy' with host Art Fleming in the late 1960s or 1970s. Mrs. Norweb was playing for the benefit of some charity. I actually watched that episode, and my sketchy recollection is that Mrs. Norweb mopped up the contest. I was unaware of her connection to numismatics at that time, but I do remember that she was a 'grande lady' character.

  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would also guess 10:1. There are many hobbies which have similar gender disparity. Male private pilots outnumber females by about 15:1 (per FAA records). In recreational horseback riding, females outnumber males by about 10:1. Not sure why such disparities exist, but they do.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Decorator slabs? ;)

  • John2000John2000 Posts: 81 ✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2019 9:33PM

    Now, the glaring question is... just what does constitute one being a coin collector. There are many levels of collecting, from putting away pocket change, to state/nat. parks quarters, all the way up to the elite big time collectors.
    The ratios get larger as we progress through the levels of collecting. JMHO.

    I may not know what I'm doing most of the time, but I'm Damn good at it. 😇 😈

  • lonn47lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    thanks to you all for the anwers you gave me.. now i know more why.. thanks

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