It's pretty tedious reading through the innuendo etc, and excuse my ignorance on the coin, but here's a question - considering the die crack and weakness of the stars on the left side, along with the prooflike surfaces and great flow lines - it looks like a really early strike from a die that didn't last long. Were there other die combinations?
In an earlier post I attributed the die marriage and quoted the chief engraver on the problems with die hardening in 1794 and 1795, which explains the bisecting crack found on all examples of this DM.
The LM-7 die marriage is not just rare but very rare+, closer to 13 survivors in the R-6 rarity range of 13-30. There were not many struck, it is not surprising that Eliasberg and the OP example have proof-like surfaces in high grade. The Mint struggled with failing dies in the early years, and they used dies well beyond their useful life. There are many examples of lapping (grinding and polishing) of dies to reduce the severity of die cracks and clash marks on early coins.
Nice coin, nice house!
Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
Thanks, Nysoto - I had unfortunately glossed over your earlier post. What an attractive, well-preserved piece of history! TDN will be a good caretaker, no doubt.
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Looks like an awesome house. Can't wait to see it completed
For those that might be interested. There are a ton of photos of Simpson's home online from when he put it up for sale in 2017. I wonder if he had a guest house? Of note, the house was offered for less than TDN's top coin.
Another piece added to the puzzle:
Bay Area Collection - Heritage 3/2003:5477, $25,300 - Heritage 8/2006:5106, $126,500 - Dime Box Silver Collection (PCGS Set Registry) - Bruce Morelan Collection
@ExpertNumismatics said:
Another piece added to the puzzle:
Bay Area Collection - Heritage 3/2003:5477, $25,300 - Heritage 8/2006:5106, $126,500 - Dime Box Silver Collection (PCGS Set Registry) - Bruce Morelan Collection
That's a terrific name for a collection! "Bay Area" calls to mind counterfeits among my peers.
@ColonelJessup said:
I have never, in the last 40 years of this, ever ever seen a guy more appropriately called "Mr. Johnson".
Perhaps the "real" Mr. Johnson is the guy who dipped that coin. Will the "real" Mr. Johnson please come forward and tell us what he used for the dip.
OINK
That would be "Dr. Johnson", having the crack-out cojones of an ace grader and the conservation/doctoring skills needed to produce market-acceptable wholesomeness
Easily conceivable as either the work of an individual or the pairing of somewhat overlapping skill sets
RIP Martin
Coins of this period, so crudely made, are the most unpredictable planchets to work with, whether taking off or adding color or crud .
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@specialist said:
Dang right I am a wannabe tenant!!!! Heck yeah, me and Money-what a team!!!!
"overlapping skill sets ????"
Maybe I'm better at seeing under color on older coins and the other person too, but how many "surviving" planchets pre-1800 do you see? We both have crud removal and dipping skills. Though neither of us has seen more than a few 94's likely dippable, 95 H10c are "workable". Sorta. Mostly.
These little things were fragile and not well-made.
Are two heads better than one?
Or one guy has all the money and 1/2 the knowledge and 1/3 the skills? ETC ETC
OTOH I could care less what someone else knows about dipping 1896 proof coinage
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@tradedollarnut said:
Still 3 months to go on the house - but yes the backyard grass is in
Quite a beautiful estate you are building. But I think skimping out and opting for dual porto-potties instead of some nice stone bathrooms is something you might regret at re-sale.
@tradedollarnut said:
Still 3 months to go on the house - but yes the backyard grass is in
Quite a beautiful estate you are building. But I think skimping out and opting for dual porto-potties instead of some nice stone bathrooms is something you might regret at re-sale.
@tradedollarnut said:
Still 3 months to go on the house - but yes the backyard grass is in
Quite a beautiful estate you are building. But I think skimping out and opting for dual porto-potties instead of some nice stone bathrooms is something you might regret at re-sale.
@specialist said:
That’s the alternate guest house
AKA LSS house........
AKA LSS guest house....….
Gazillionaire groupie and pathetic coin wannabe
Learning to play miniature golf at the Jersey Shore ain't cuttin' it in the "big time", @sugar
SAD. SO VERY VERY SAD
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@Insider2 said:
I have heard Mr. Paul was very talented. Is this his work?
I have no idea. A coin that small was not on my $25K target-of-opportunity list, so I wasn't paying attention.
We're talking a subtle and masterful micro-dip he, I and lots of others were capable of seeing because of technical knowledge and superb pattern recognition. But few others had his pre-disposition towards risk.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@tradedollarnut said:
Still 3 months to go on the house - but yes the backyard grass is in
I see pella windows in there. Ahh the good old days when the previous owner would take their top builders and architectural designers on very nice vacations.
Shame they no longer do that.
Beautiful home with nice balance.
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@jmski52
In an earlier post I attributed the die marriage and quoted the chief engraver on the problems with die hardening in 1794 and 1795, which explains the bisecting crack found on all examples of this DM.
The LM-7 die marriage is not just rare but very rare+, closer to 13 survivors in the R-6 rarity range of 13-30. There were not many struck, it is not surprising that Eliasberg and the OP example have proof-like surfaces in high grade. The Mint struggled with failing dies in the early years, and they used dies well beyond their useful life. There are many examples of lapping (grinding and polishing) of dies to reduce the severity of die cracks and clash marks on early coins.
Nice coin, nice house!
Thanks, Nysoto - I had unfortunately glossed over your earlier post. What an attractive, well-preserved piece of history! TDN will be a good caretaker, no doubt.
I knew it would happen.
bruce knows I am not kidding. that guest house is the size of a regular house.
oh yeah, P>S> Money is his virtual next door neighbor (yes Mr Mayweather). He knows I want to hang over there!!!
What a stunning coin!
Thank you, Bruce, for sharing.
New pic of the backyard
It doesn’t suck...
Looks like an awesome house. Can't wait to see it completed
For those that might be interested. There are a ton of photos of Simpson's home online from when he put it up for sale in 2017. I wonder if he had a guest house? Of note, the house was offered for less than TDN's top coin.
Go for it @specialist!
Pedigree
Heritage 8/2006:5106, $126,500 - Dime Box Silver Collection (PCGS Set Registry) - Bruce Morelan Collection
I updated the pedigree on PCGS CoinFacts
Thanks for doing this.
Seems like Bruce is the only known named collector for this coin so far.
So far...I'll look a little further later today.
Great coin, and beautiful house!
She could be a wannabe tenant.
Another piece added to the puzzle:
Bay Area Collection - Heritage 3/2003:5477, $25,300 - Heritage 8/2006:5106, $126,500 - Dime Box Silver Collection (PCGS Set Registry) - Bruce Morelan Collection
That's a terrific name for a collection! "Bay Area" calls to mind counterfeits among my peers.
Dang right I am a wannabe tenant!!!! Heck yeah, me and Money-what a team!!!!
Well, great coin, and reading the thread was immensely enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing, although I'm sure you sometimes wonder why you bother at all......
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dimes/half-dimes/1795-h10c-ms65-ngc-v-8-lm-7-r6-this-very-rare-variety-shows-the-diagnostic-rim-to-rim-die-crack-on-the-obverse-that-pa/a/316-5477.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
Proof positive that sometimes ‘a little dip will do ya!’
Perhaps the "real" Mr. Johnson is the guy who dipped that coin. Will the "real" Mr. Johnson please come forward and tell us what he used for the dip.
OINK
That would be "Dr. Johnson", having the crack-out cojones of an ace grader and the conservation/doctoring skills needed to produce market-acceptable wholesomeness
Easily conceivable as either the work of an individual or the pairing of somewhat overlapping skill sets
RIP Martin
Coins of this period, so crudely made, are the most unpredictable planchets to work with, whether taking off or adding color or crud
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"overlapping skill sets ????"
Now we know where this blazer was hiding!
Great find!
What was the “Bay Area Collection” known for?
I have heard Mr. Paul was very talented. Is this his work?
I'll bring the pool floaties, ok?
The 1795 is Top Shelf!
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Are there similar coins attributed to him?
Maybe I'm better at seeing under color on older coins and the other person too, but how many "surviving" planchets pre-1800 do you see? We both have crud removal and dipping skills. Though neither of us has seen more than a few 94's likely dippable, 95 H10c are "workable". Sorta. Mostly.
These little things were fragile and not well-made.
Are two heads better than one?
Or one guy has all the money and 1/2 the knowledge and 1/3 the skills? ETC ETC
OTOH I could care less what someone else knows about dipping 1896 proof coinage
I like the story about the toned dollar that Mr. Halperin conserved.
Quite a beautiful estate you are building. But I think skimping out and opting for dual porto-potties instead of some nice stone bathrooms is something you might regret at re-sale.
That’s the alternate guest house
I will take that as an open invite.
That’s the alternate guest house
AKA LSS house........
AKA LSS guest house....….
Gazillionaire groupie and pathetic coin wannabe
Learning to play miniature golf at the Jersey Shore ain't cuttin' it in the "big time", @sugar
SAD. SO VERY VERY SAD
I have no idea. A coin that small was not on my $25K target-of-opportunity list, so I wasn't paying attention.
We're talking a subtle and masterful micro-dip he, I and lots of others were capable of seeing because of technical knowledge and superb pattern recognition. But few others had his pre-disposition towards risk.
the colonel is soooo right!
I see pella windows in there. Ahh the good old days when the previous owner would take their top builders and architectural designers on very nice vacations.
Shame they no longer do that.
Beautiful home with nice balance.
Well said.
This baby is a killer.
many of us will never get close to holding or owning such rarities.
Your coin newps and tales add much charm and value to this forum.
That said this home being built uber cool indeed.