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gtstang
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Have you or do you know of anyone that has gotten an upgrade on crossover to pcgs and if so, what was it?
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@gtstang
Did a quick search of the forum and here’s the latest that I found.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12295016
I rarely see successful results from anyone here on the board, including myself.
bob
Technically but not really...... One time a long time ago. I had a seated CC quarter go from NGC 58 to PCGS 58. I cracked it out and sent it in raw and it came back PCGS 62.
Had an 1872 Half Dime go from ANACS 58 to PCGS 62.
Nobody got rich off of that one....but it kinda felt good.
I've had a bunch from anacs..........zero from ngc. I now crack out ngc coins as I consider them raw now.
Most of the NGC crossover to PCGS have come back lower than NGC graded them...there was one exception that I recall; 1892 50C NGC MS61 came back PCGS 62, and CAC'd. I was really hoping to continue the trend with an AU58...not this time.
I have had good success with ANACS Old white holders and some of their blue labels.
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Link is the reported success rate for crossovers and other stats.
https://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/
@Hemispherical
I am more curious if anyone has ever gotten an upgrade on a crossover submission. I don't think there would be a set inhouse rule that crossovers cannot upgrade, but it seems we never hear that they have. I see one poster above did get an upgrade on a crossover.
Never such luck....on the other hand my most under-graded coins are probably in old holders with gold stickers which I am not interested in losing...by example I'd rather have a AU53 coin in an OGH with a gold sticker than in a new AU55 holder with no sticker...
One thing for those who may not realize to keep in mind regarding those statistics is a successful crossover might be a downgrade. I crossed a coin that went from NGC 55 to PCGS 50, but it was a "successful" crossover. One of the options on the submission form is to crossover at "any" grade.
On a side note- in my opinion PCGS got it right. I believed it was a 50 when I sent it in.
Only once did I try.
ANACS (yellow holder) in MS64 Morgan crossed over and came back MS63
On second thought, I may have cracked it.
All of my submissions are raw and have been 100% slabbed... but not always at the grade I hoped.
Peace Dollars were the dream killer and erased any profits from Morgan success.
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I have had one upgrade crossover (in the holder) in my lifetime about 8 years ago - a PF 65 MPL upgraded to a 66. FWIW, it was in an NGC fattie which I had owned since 1990. I think their philosophy is much like the CAC gold sticker - it has to be at least 1 point higher. Since they can't see all sides of the coin and are limited by the slab, they don't want to take any chances, so they probably only upgrade if they think the coin is an "A" coin at the next grade up (if not higher) before cracking. This is why the odds seem way low. JMHO.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
Yes, but it is very rare.
I crossed an AU55 1815/2 half dollar in an old NGC fattie. It came back PCGS AU58. I later did a reconsideration. It came back 58+. I then sent it to CAC where it green-stickered.
Lance.
AU58+ with a green sticker kind of makes me chuckle a little.
Hehe. No sticker would have been funnier.
Lance.
Many times, and many postings about it by others.
I once crossed an 1810 bust half in a Old NGC AU58 fattie holder to PCGS 62.
I also crossed an 1814 bust half E/A NGC MS61 (new style holder) to PCGS 61, then submitted it a few times more for regrade (never cracked it out) and now it’s in a PCGS MS63+ CAC holder!!
Dave
I don't do crossovers, but I got a 1921 Peace Dollar in NGC MS64 to grade PCGS MS65, and then get a green CAC sticker.