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Kevin Lipton's 1792 Eagle on Globe Quarter Copper Pattern

CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was watching this video interview at CoinWorld of Kevin Lipton:

https://coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2019/02/cwtls-kevin-lipton.html

where he talked about his love for his acquired 1792 quarter copper pattern (the better of 2 made):

As he stated in his interview, this design was in such conflict with the "witch" like design of Liberty for our early copper coinage. I agree with him that the pattern's depiction is beautiful on both sides, but reflected on how Liberty's neck is so different on the pattern compared to the later massive neck of the Matron Head coins of 24 years later :D

Any other thoughts you'd share on Lipton's pattern and its design? Too bad it wasn't used!

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"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."

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    OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It should be shipped immediately to me for evaluation.

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting, had not taken a close look until now. Beautiful, ahead of its time for the US anyway.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He's right though as Miss Liberty on a 1793 Chain Cent could be Mister Liberty.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Incredibly gorgeous!

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,374 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful! I see that the engraver,Wright, died of yellow fever in 1793.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice, I like it !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely beautiful; a lucky man for sure.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will gladly take the other one.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    I will gladly take the other one.

    You’ll need to break into the museum then!

    Seated Half Society member #38

    "She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
    running like a water color in the rain...."
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @Smudge said:
    I will gladly take the other one.

    You’ll need to break into the museum then!

    Oh well once again I do without. That's ok I usually do without.

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My favorite single example in the whole 1792 set (Kevin Lipton's Birch cent comes close). Aesthetically compelling with fabulous color when tilted in hand. Definitely an outlier from a design perspective, and not as popular as the others due to a complete lack of availability.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2019 10:47AM

    This is a great coin with an illustrious pedigree including Vergil Brand, Judd and Abe Kosoff.

    The following is from Heritage in 2015 which also has 3 videos on this coin:

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/1792-p25c-copper-quarter-dollar-judd-12-pollock-14-ms63-brown-ngc-cac/a/1216-5511.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

    1. MS63 NGC. 178.9 grains. Edward Cogan (4/1863), lot 1074; Charles I. Bushnell (S.H. & H. Chapman, 6/1882), lot 1764; Lorin G. Parmelee (New York Coin & Stamp, 6/1890), lot 9; H.P. Smith; DeWitt Smith; Virgil M. Brand (journal #46508); J. Hewitt Judd; Abe Kosoff (Illustrated History, 1962), lot 15; Donald Groves Partrick; the present coin.

    Here's the envelope this coin was stored in. I wonder if Kevin has this?

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2019 12:15AM

    The Eagle is so Bolshoi graceful :)

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2019 11:03AM

    The character of both designs is far removed from any of the other 1792 pieces - or any others in the early period - I wonder if we have the correct engraver/diesinker attribution.

    I wonder if Pierre-Simon-Benjamin Duvivier or Pierre-Joseph Tiolier might be considered candidates. Both portrait and eagle are of the light, post-Revolutionary realist style.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2019 10:39AM

    @RogerB said:
    The character of both designs is far removed from any of the other 1792 pieces - or any others in the early period - I wonder if we have the correct engraver/diesinker attribution.

    Do I hear another research project in the making? ;)

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope. I can handle 18th century English; but 18th century French seems much worse. The designs appear to have no connection to any imported "American" medallists/engravers. Skills necessary to control the portrait indicate professional work.

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesnt do it for me. I would prefer many other coins.

    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that's different and go like it. thanks for sharing

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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This thread reminded me that I picked this up at the ANA in Philly this summer.
    I just tossed it into my backpack and apologize for its condition.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

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