Anything popular in the market besides gold?
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I've heard Barber Halves are deader than dead and Morgans are still way too cheap. Anything moving up?
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You can’t put a price on collecting what you like. I have wheat pennies that bring me more pleasure than some of my gold pieces.
I have noticed that 67 'plus graded washingtons and Walkers have been selling for strong Money at auctions lately. Imho, I do not believe they are worth the huge premiums garnered-three or more times the prices of 'straight 67's-n relatively common dates, but obviously a lot of others do.
Ultra-rarities.
I believe that Rainbow Toners are still holding comfortably within their bubble.
High-end, low population, type, for the registry set competitors.
If there is blood in the street............Barber Halves..........and a dealer will face reality,now is the time to strike.
metaphor above
Who said gold was good? Looking at the premium on most common date gold in 64 or less, I would argue that gold is almost as dead as common date Barber and Morgan coins.
David Hall is touting the low, low, low price of gold premiums these days. Although, not rare coins like zodiac65 refers to.
Price guide shows lots of green on type 3 gold dollars. Lots of red on common Saints. Think hobby and collect what you like.
Are Morgans "way to cheap" or are they actually "way too expensive" given the huge numbers that exist?
Which translates to a fraction of one percent of the market for those coins being "hot".
Pop < 100 coins are all probably doing well.
All > 1000 are probably not, regardless of it it's a saint or a Lincoln.
My Saint Set
1943 steel wheat cents are popular. Get one today.
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Does “gold” = 1923-D Saint in MS63 or does “gold” equal 1795 small eagle $10 in AU58?
Barber half dollars are out of favor, except at the top where prices seem to as strong as ever to me.
IMO what’s hot is the best 20% of slabbed coins at a given assigned grade.
Good point. I think gold is being referred to here as the common 24 , 25 , 23 d Saints etc. Barbers are mid grade. I personally flipped a nice 65 Barber Half including the 17.5 % juice this past week to a B&M dealer.
I have a good friend who picked up a nice 1801 $10 in AU including the juice for $14000. at Fun.
Again, I think it's "common gold coins" and mid grade halves i.e. EF thru MS 63 select easier coins to acquire.
Generally we all don't need to hear the truth too often it ruins our illusions
I'm stuck on gold !!!
Barber halves are dead? Every time I look at proof Barber half prices on eBay, I'm always like dang those are expensive.
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It’s too funny about Barber Halves. When pops of certain dates in VF30 up to AU58 were counted on one hand it was a frenzy.
Now that some of those pops have passed into double digits the series is dead.
“Get out of this dumpster fire, there’s 16 of these graded in XF45!!”
Weird.
I'll comment on the Barber Half market. It will take time for people to realize that the POP's haven't changed much for nice original unmolested coins! PCGS flooded the market with crap that would have never straight graded several years ago! Go take a look at the 01-O in 35 that ended tonight. https://ebay.com/itm/1901-O-Much-Better-date-Barber-half-PCGS-VF35-pleasing-DavidKahnRareCoins-/123609584980?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
If that's not a prime example of what I'm talking about I don't know what is! I talked to him at the show this weekend about it and he even said it is a POS! The last couple of years those are the type of coins folks are seeing as recent auctions. I'm not seeing anyone else sell there nice original coins for those levels!
PS I sold a choice original VF35 within the last year for $1175 and am not hearing any complaints from who bought it!
Thought I would add some pics!
If it doesn't have a bean, it better be gold.
That's my approach now.
Your vf35 has MUCH more detail than the one sold on ebay. That is reflected in the price paid. Not a good look for our host, however.
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Yikes...From the black lagoon.:(
I saw a lot of silver changing hands at our monthly show yesterday - rounds, bulk raw Morgans, etc.
Another old time dealer said this past FUN was their third best out of the 50 they have attended,
and said last week the 3 day Ocala show was very good, too. I asked specifically what, and he said the selling was
broad-based, which he took as a good sign, then added 'anything with a CC on it is especially in demand'.
CC and better date coins.
Did you happen to notice the fresh scratch/scrape at the base of the Bust going into the date? Looks cleaned to me as well!
I'm in the market for xf, preferably au, seated dollars for my 7070 type set and the inventory on Dick Osburn's site has shrunk considerably since the last time I looked there about a year ago. Used to be pages and pages now it's less than 50 of both types.
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I was just looking at the shield detail. The scratch certainly is a hindrance to pretty, but unless it's a rim ding maybe they don't care so much on a vf coin.
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@dan_marinelli They did on this one! Surprised me actually going buy what they have been grading.
Edit to add...that's not the coin I was thinking of. I have one somewhere that has a very small old scratch that doesn't detract from the originality of the coin.
I've been selling a lot of high-end, original Pioneer Gold without much in the way of price resistance lately. I also sold a 43-S Bronze Cent in choice AU with a gold CAC sticker, as well as an AU 1794 Half Dollar, and some really rare Seated. It seems like the high end is really picking up, although my sample size is probably small. A close friend who sells very high end vintage guitars has also seen a big upswing since November in blue-chip material (rare pre-war Martins and pre-1964 Gibson and Fender electrics).
As an aside, I took in a phenomenal group of PR67-68 toned Barber proofs in December and have moved a substantial number with less haggling than I would have anticipated. The quality is all there for these pieces, which I can't say about a lot of Barber material that I see in sales lately, CAC'd or not.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
The high end Washington market has been pretty hot lately! Two big sets have been sold lately and brought solid prices.
Thanks for all the input to date. I seem to buy a lot of nice high end widgets Washington's, Walker's and Lincoln's etc. but get bored with them. Trying to sell stuff to re-invest and even the coin shops I frequent have no clientele for them.
From a few weeks ago, generic, even old, gold is NOT hot....dealers were not that interested at older, PCGS, gold except at melt...unless it was high grade/more rare.
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