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REAL or NO REAL - 1914 $5 Indian

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  • maplemanmapleman Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FWIW the nose is problematic IMO.

  • slider23slider23 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭✭

    I am in the counterfeit camp. The bar that the eagle is perched on is off. In a genuine example there are 6 bar lines under the tail feathers. On the OP coin 5 bar lines at best.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd put my money on real and send it off to our hosts.

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be surprised if PCGS would authenticate from these photos. Everyone is just guessing.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler said:
    I would be surprised if PCGS would authenticate from these photos. Everyone is just guessing.

    Hi Jim... that's just the point. They wouldn't. If the OP sends the coin in, PCGS would have it in hand to make the determination of authenticity. Until that, we can look at all the pictures we'd like and it's still just speculation.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scary good if it's a fake. But, with that said I still worry about the truncated stars 12 and 13. They should have points that stay on the coin and not blunts that end at the edge

    bob

    What is the diameter?

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    It seems fine for an AU (I do not know the die characteristics of known fakes for 1914s), but I would look at everything close that came with the Vermont.

    The 1914 $5 was purchased a while back (about 12 years ago) - the Vermont about 3 weeks ago

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,903 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just one of the things that looks a little off to me is the 3 small feathers between the wing tip & the tail feathers. Anyone else see a difference there? It could be lighting, wear, shadows etc.... The bottom feather looks shorter and doesn't have quite the same curl to it. Like I said this is just one thing I am seeing.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can keep posting as many new pics as you want but it' not going to change the fact that the coin is still fake.

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it should be sent in. Shoot, send it to ICG. It will be a cheap way to tell for sure. I am still in the fake camp as well.

  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2018 8:34PM

    Hard to tell from photos

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    You can keep posting as many new pics as you want but it' not going to change the fact that the coin is still fake.

    I only posted one additional picture that was in better focus, as I promised early in the thread (sorry for delay). Can you specify what, in fact, makes this coin fake? If would be very helpful to me and possibly to those reading this thread.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2018 8:47AM

    Looks real to me but would not buy a raw coin like that. Why is it not in a graded holder? Have u weighed it?

    Really nice luster, a beauty. Omega fake?

    Guy in coin club bought some ASE bc they around $20 each. Then found out seller in China, concerned him. Then when listing removed he called eBay got refund as tracking number not trackable, fake. Couple mo later they arrived in flips with sticker lol that said “made in China” and were inside in plastic capsules. The return address on pkg said Xzx Distr Company in NJ. They were weakly struck obvious fakes and seemed lite in wt.

    Be cognizant where material shipx from when buying.

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. Looks good to me. Feather ends I would examine close as that would be most telling it looks MS 64 to me but have someone test it. They only made Matte finish during that period since no mm. Good luck

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  • cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    Not only looks real, but a nice CH BU

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Looks real to me but would not buy a raw coin like that. Why is it not in a graded holder? Have u weighed it?

    Really nice luster, a beauty. Omega fake?

    Guy in coin club bought some ASE bc they around $20 each. Then found out seller in China, concerned him. Then when listing removed he called eBay got refund as tracking number not trackable, fake. Couple mo later they arrived in flips with sticker lol that said “made in China” and were inside in plastic capsules. The return address on pkg said Xzx Distr Company in NJ. They were weakly struck obvious fakes and seemed lite in wt.

    Be cognizant where material shipx from when buying.

    $2 1/2 and $5 Indian C/F's were very crude at the time the Omega's came out. We (me, Hoskins and the Mint authenticators B) ) believe he made and signed three coins: The $20 and the $3 with the symbol and later (after the Omega was published) a "state-of-the-art" Type 3 $1 appeared with a "tick" inside the "D" of "United" that looked like his workmanship.

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