Looks really nice! I will guess you bought it thinking it could grade a 65? I have no classic gold yet, but one like that is what I'm thinking of choosing first.
So you’ve got two camps, the AU58/60, and the MS64/65, both making their judgements based on the quality of the photo. That should tell you something! A photo at an angle might show hidden nicks, etc., so that might be a consideration next time.
Congratulations. My guess was* AU-58/MS-62 based on the images ... as I saw what looked like rub on the Eagle's shoulder. I think you still have a very nice Indian Eagle, irrespective of the grade on the holder.
*I don't often make it to the GTG threads before the grade is revealed!
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@Paradisefound said:
I'll either crack it in a couple years for resubmission or CAC it and while we are at it do you think 63 CAC = 64 in demand ?
*I am not a seller nor a flipper ...... here observing and to learn this aspect of the collecting along the way
@U1chicago said:
Maybe a trip to the sticker factory is in this coin’s future?
The spread isn’t huge between a 63 and a 64 for this date, so the sticker could get you fairly close to 64 no sticker value in my opinion. Even with no sticker, if the coin is PQ and one was selling it would be justifiable to ask a premium above an average example.
@Paradisefound said:
I'll either crack it in a couple years for resubmission or CAC it and while we are at it do you think 63 CAC = 64 in demand ?
In addition to the 'value' of the CAC sticker, think of the educational value a CAC submission brings. When I submit coins to CAC (and I have a box of 20 there now), I use their opinion as a way to educate myself on what I believe to be original, accurately graded coins. I also submit coins I think are 'at the limit' just to fine tune my originality sensitivity.
For a box of 20, the total cost is around $20* each if all are 'approved' and as a collector, I am only charged their fee if the coin receives a sticker. That's a bargain.
If you are not a CAC member or If you only have a coin or two to submit, I am sure folks here are willing to add yours to their submission.
*$14.50 each plus postage each way
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Just goes to show what a difference a good pic can make. I'm glad it was better than the AU camp.
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Looks really nice! I will guess you bought it thinking it could grade a 65? I have no classic gold yet, but one like that is what I'm thinking of choosing first.
64
I'll say 63 by the top photos. All the other photos are confusing. Don't know if I'm looking at your coin or someone else's.
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65
I’ll call it a nice AU. Very nice coin! That’s my one of my favorite 20th century gold types.
I'm going with MS64 just because you were disappointed. If it was 65 and over you would not have been.
62
Very nice, 65 is my guess.
Wow, PF you are a young'un. I thought you had to have grey hair to collect coins.
So you’ve got two camps, the AU58/60, and the MS64/65, both making their judgements based on the quality of the photo. That should tell you something! A photo at an angle might show hidden nicks, etc., so that might be a consideration next time.
Me? 64+, but I’m an optimist.
Looks like friction Marks on the reverse but could just be the photo.
My guess is MS62
Disregard the other photos by other member; does not have anything to do with mine nor the subject
Mine are the top 2 pictures on the opening post
64/64+ from the pics.
Almost looks *too" good.....?
Wut?
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Wut about 29's?
@1Mike1 said:
Aren't all the ladies 29?
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I don't think so ...... it could be a few under or less
Looks like a solid 64
I'm lost here totally, between the gold and the ladies, can the OP restart this thread?
If not, mt take is;
So 64 camp is unacceptable, neither is 58, with or without dings, I'll go with 29
I thought it warrants 64 but here she is all dressed up
That does seem harsh. But we will never know why under current PCGS policy.
@Insider2 is correct .... it has to be the shoulder rub
I like your reveals, still a very nice attractive coin
Your second pictures are much better than the first.
Congratulations. My guess was* AU-58/MS-62 based on the images ... as I saw what looked like rub on the Eagle's shoulder. I think you still have a very nice Indian Eagle, irrespective of the grade on the holder.
*I don't often make it to the GTG threads before the grade is revealed!
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Maybe a trip to the sticker factory is in this coin’s future?
I'll wait for you next time
I would say MS-63
Looks very nice, I would have guessed 64, the "rub" on the shoulder looks like strike deficiency to me.
I'll either crack it in a couple years for resubmission or CAC it
and while we are at it do you think 63 CAC = 64 in demand ?
*I am not a seller nor a flipper ...... here observing and to learn this aspect of the collecting along the way
The spread isn’t huge between a 63 and a 64 for this date, so the sticker could get you fairly close to 64 no sticker value in my opinion. Even with no sticker, if the coin is PQ and one was selling it would be justifiable to ask a premium above an average example.
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Sorry for your disappointment PF! With so few marks, I can see why.
By the way, a think a different reveal is in order to show us the other side (of your avatar)!
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They are tight, that's likely the nicest 63 out there! And the new holder looks great! She's a keeper!
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In addition to the 'value' of the CAC sticker, think of the educational value a CAC submission brings. When I submit coins to CAC (and I have a box of 20 there now), I use their opinion as a way to educate myself on what I believe to be original, accurately graded coins. I also submit coins I think are 'at the limit' just to fine tune my originality sensitivity.
For a box of 20, the total cost is around $20* each if all are 'approved' and as a collector, I am only charged their fee if the coin receives a sticker. That's a bargain.
If you are not a CAC member or If you only have a coin or two to submit, I am sure folks here are willing to add yours to their submission.
*$14.50 each plus postage each way
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Gorgeous coin regardless.
Just goes to show what a difference a good pic can make. I'm glad it was better than the AU camp.
I'm still looking for a nice $10 Indian, I'd be happy with that one. Why not secure/trueviewed?
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Nice coin; very tough to get raw coins to grade high in this day and age.
I didn't think about it .... must've been water logged then
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