Who to believe?
disappointingcoins
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I have begun re-checking every 1c "S" mintmark I have from 3 TPG's both Regular Strike and Proofs because I am finding more slabs with RPM, OMM and some RPD and RPL's than not. Then as I normally do, refer to coinfacts and find some of the same anomalies on the examples. Has there been sometime in history that TPG decided those don't count? Likewise the (what I call for lack of an official acronym) the L in LIBERTY climbing the rim as opposed to being flat on the field? Somewhat confusing if not downright aggravating especially to those that look for these things. Try this example and then try some others. Go to the right upper example, click it, download large image, then magnify that and check the MM and the Letters IGWT the L in LIBERTY and see what you see. I could be getting cross-eyed from too much searching or
coffee or maybe not? http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/2909
below is a Proof I photoed last night. 
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I recall that @Aspie_Rocco had recent experience with trying to get variety attributions. Perhaps he can provide more insight?
The "L on the rim" thing happens more in the late 1960' s. The original die lost detail through the years until it finally had to be replaced in 1969.
One of the reasons, along with the gross lack of detail, was that "L".
Pete
The image of the "S" looks like the copper plating split.
Speaking at the former Senior Authenticator and person in charge of writing up varieties for ANACS (a long, long time ago), not all varieties are significant. That's just the reality of life.
As Pete said, that L touching the rim was just the result of the design slowly spreading as it was copied over and over from year to year. Every now and then the Mint goes back to the original model and starts over, or sometimes it makes a new model. They are books that speak about such things.
This also applies to reverses. Look at the size of the designer's initials on the back of the cent up through 1972, in 1973, and in 1974 and later. This was a change that I reported at the time that is not terribly significant, except that somebody once posted a really neat error coin on here that did not show a date, but I was able to date the coin for him using that hub characteristic.
TD
You can do like @tradedollarnut and sell at a loss for the write-off.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
My understanding is that if it is not included in the Cherry Pickers guide it won't be recognized by PCGS. So many are so minor that they just stick to the big ones in the guide. If yours are recognized varieties then the $18 variety fee had to be paid to have it on the label. PCGS does not go looking for minor varieties on their own. If it's a major variety then it likely will have it's own PCGS number and the variety fee is waived such as the 1955 DDO and 1972 DDO.
PCGS recognizes the following cents from 2000 to 2008 (Memorials)
2000 Wide AM
2004 DDR FS-801
2006 DDO FS-101 and FS-102
If your cents are from this era then these are the only three that will be attributed and labeled.
bob
First off you need to understand the market. Is there a market for a 2001-d error? Who is the buyer and what are they willing to pay. What have recent solds of that coin sold for, if any can be found. Sometimes the market is so thin that the value for what we think it should be worth is just flat out wrong. If another TPG like NGC or ANACS will attribute them then that is where you need to start. Don't consider PCGS if they don't recognize and attribute them. Go to whoever does if there is a market. Just because you have one does not mean that there are buyers for that coin. If the error is so minor it may not have a "real" market and when the time comes to sell the cost to get it attributed on the label far exceeds any price you might get. With a billion cents made every year how many minor errors will you find? Plenty I'm sure.
bob
PS: to answer you question you need to get the coin in the Cherry Pickers Guide to bring it to light.
There are also websites dedicated to minor errors and varieties beyond what is the the CPG. Sites like Coppercoins, Variety Vista, Franklin Lovers, Vam World and I’m sure many others. You can probably find a lot of additional data as well as collectors with similar interests on some of those sites.
In my experience many of the folks examining coins for DD and RPM's don't have a clue what they are doing.
Right this minute, I'm doing an order of 20 Lincoln cents that the submitter has written detailed descriptions telling us what to look for on his "gems." I'm on the tenth coin - all worthless spending money. Bagmark damaged mintmarks, and normal coins so far! Soon, I'll call him and send him a handout on Doubled Dies and a partial refund. I cannot take candy from an uninformed CRH. Hopefully, with persistence and more knowledge, he'll actually find something.
At @Insider2, good on you for giving a partial refund. I am wondering who told the individual to send them in or where/what on the web s/he is using as a resource.
Who knows. I guess you type coin authentication into Google.
I wish I could tell you the part of my post I just removed. We all have funny stories. I'll bet the folks at our host have some really good ones. Need to take each collector seriously. Remember the 1969-S DDO that walked over to the PCGS table at a show!
Guess what...just found a BU 2015 1c DDO in the order. CONECA has several listed yet I never heard/saw one before. Guess I don't need to send the DD handout after all. LOL.