Another Spitting Eagle
rainbowstew_54
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One more spitting eagle! (1966 No MM)
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rainbowstew_54
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Looks a lot like a scratch to me.
May I make a suggestion, look for errors in Brand new rolls of coins, you will find them.
Looking for errors in circulation seems to be confusing you.
Start with brand new coins and look for the different die states and die traits. You will learn a lot.
This is good advice.
Learn what a "new" coin look like.
Then compare it to your example above.
----- Your coin is corroded
----- Your coin has beat up rims
----- Your coin is scratched
A crude example would be this: You see a smashed up car on the side of the road. You ask yourself "Was it made this way or did this happen after it left the assembly line?"
The coins you have been posting are obviously "crashed cars".
Look through a loupe and learn to tell the difference between displaced metal (a scratch) and a raised line (die scratch or gouge, This is a critical difference.
Take the time you are currently using to photograph damaged coins and learn about the minting process...and ask yourself "Could this have happened at the mint?' or "Did this happen after the coin has entered commerce?"
Also understand that the overwhelming odds are that a strange-looking piece is damaged and not an error. I imagine the incidence of error coins is less than 1/1000th the incidence of damaged coins and probably significantly less.
It's not a scratch. It'is a raised silver line
Right JBK,
but there is no cut or trench - it's just a long line of coin material
Ok. I stand corrected. You are the expert.
No "silver" in a 1966.
Ok there is a deep gash in it and lines on both sides of the gash.... Mr Expert - I'm gone from here ...thanks for all your help
I never claimed to be "the expert" but I respect the opinions of those who are, and I learn from them. I highly recommend it!
Nope No "silver" in a 1966. I didn't mean "Silver" I meant the coloring...
Welcome back @rainbowstew_54.
Hemispherical, I'm not gone yet...I'm just trying to figure out why I'm getting such hurtful sarcasm from some people...If they don't care for my postings and/or coins, then they should save themselves the aggravation and not click on ANY of my postings. I'm here to share the coins i have and to try and understand some of the elements of error coins I have so far learned a lot, but some act as if I shouldn't even be here since I know nothing. I assure you all, I am completely sincere and I am absolutely NOT trying to pull anyone's leg, as I was so rudely accused of earlier today. If I decide to stay, I just might direct my posts to the "Experts Only" - because after all, they certainly didn't become Experts by being obnoxious or rude.
I am not an "expert", just an observer. The issue arises because you and a couple of others post the same non-errors over and over and over. It obviously wears on their patience and justifiably so. Take a few days, take a few of the books and take a few of the links they have given you, study them, and then look through your coins. Then if you feel you have a coin to post, it might really be a coin with some numismatic value, and worth their time.
Are you @CoInSide7 as well
Posts coins of **questionable nature and uses a persons photo along with title postings that they think are humerous?
But BJandTundra is 100 correct and should heed advice as I am sure you may find your future questins may go un replied.
@acadien,@benito
You're getting hurtful sarcasm because you're making posts and evaluations based off hopeful assumptions instead of knowledge obtained through study. It's great that you're interested in errors, and on the hunt, however purchasing a few books about errors and/or reading up on the wealth of information available on the internet will really help you understand what to look for and what is damage. Good luck on your search.
Also just to add, as another user mentioned it's best to search UNC coins for errors / varieties, instead of circulation coins. I highly suggest going to a local coin shop and asking if they have UNC 1960s/1970s memorial cent rolls for sale. They can easily be obtained in quantity for a dollar a roll or less.
Circulation can rub down the displaced metal and make the "trench" vansih. You have a post-mint damaged coin..
PMD. its worth .25 cents.
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And unfocused close up images just add to the problem. Slow down, go to a local coin shop, buy yourself a US mint set of uncirculated coins, use them as a study guide. @Aspie_Rocca just posted how to use a loupe with a cell phone for killer close up images. Peace Roy
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Seems more like a spitting contest than Eagle, with respect to the tone of this thread.
And anyway, if it's a die crack or break.... it's cool .
One thing about scratches: they have to be deep to cut into both the devices and the field. If the metal is extruded, it's a break or cracked die. Stick around. Do not let words "hurt" your feelings. People can be insensitive and cruel ( if this is HOW one perceives.).
Perception is a funny thing. People perceive green and gold stickers as MORE value. Even though they're the same coins in different holders. See ? It's a perception thing.
@rainbowstew_54, “Hurtful sarcasm,” I do recommend that you do not take it this way but think of it as more of constructive criticism. I do think fellow forumites are trying to be helpful.
I agree all experts had to start somewhere and I think many are trying to help in showing the most expeditious route to take so you can be knowledgeable; and then you can turn around and help the newer coin collectors.
As many have already stated the key is to read and gain knowledge. There are many on-line resources that will help. Examples: http://doubleddie.com, http://varietyvista.com, http://www.errorvariety.com, http://www.error-ref.com, and many more. There are plenty of books, too!
What I would recommend, as part of your future posts, is that you show you have done some research. Example: “This cents looks like it has a cud because I see....” or “This look like a doubled die because I see an indication of serifs on the letters....” Instead of posting “What error is this?” and all we see is a photo without knowing what you are looking at or typing about.
Just trying to help. We are all newbies in something and when you think you know something then it goes out the window because something new has popped-up.
Lastly, as you gain knowledge in this hobby and start re-reading your older posts you might think, “Wow, was I that....... Now I know.”
Don’t give-up!
Have fun!
It IS a hobby.
Just my cudoubled two-cent opinion.
You have to have a thick skin to post here, and I applaud you for continuing to do so. You'll learn a lot from the top people in the business.
My second job is as a coin show rep for another grading company. One of the things I do in that job, if I'm knowledgeable about the coins someone has brought to my table, is give opinions on them.
There isn't a show that goes by where someone doesn't bring by an accumulation of coins they've pulled from circulation that they think are errors. 99% of those coins aren't. Here's what I tell them:
@rainbowstew_54 In reference to @cmerlo1’s third bullet in researching the minting process.
Here are a few vids on the process.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008812/making-money-error-vs-pmd
This one is a bit more in-depth on the making of a die and the striking of a coin.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1008645/error-vs-post-mint-damage
Start here:
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asheland- that is hilarious!
Maybe its a piece of spaghetti being slurped up! Eagles to beagles, what will we see next?
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I've refrained from saying anything in all these 'error' threads, but I think we are getting punked by the same person that got banned earlier that also posted similar 'errors'.
Now that I'm looking at my 1961 cent, I see something very weird! Did you know the date also reads 1961 when the cent is upside down? That has to be very valuable, I need to find my pinhole camera to post it. It's truly unbelievable!
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