@Wabbit2313 said:
What if someone like Oil comes back and hits LOL on every single post, but tells them, in his mind, they really mean "disagree". Will they all act like babies again?
@Wabbit2313 said:
What if someone like Oil comes back and hits LOL on every single post, but tells them, in his mind, they really mean "disagree". Will they all act like babies again?
Actually, @Insider2 was more prone to hit the LOL than disagree when he wanted to mock something I said. I actually might have preferred a simple disagree rather than the sound of his laughter ringing in my ears.
@BLUEJAYWAY said:
With the expulsion of said buttons it should logically force more banter amongst the community members,as far as explaining your disagreements on a given topic. And to not "hide" behind a generic button. Hopefully any exchanges that may become "heated" will not result in further banning's to quality members herein. Let us accentuate what is good here and what can be learned. And show to all viewers what this forum can be.
STRONGLY DISAGREE
[issued just to prove a point]
I could also just go with
ONLY A MOUTH-BREATHING IDIOT WOULD SAY THAT!
[Issued to create more banter amongst community members]
@FSF said:
The disagree button appeared to make no sense. You're just asking for an antagonistic environment. Besides, it's completely lame for people to disagree without stating why, which would help with the quality of content on this forum. Of course that may also lead to too many tit for tat exchanges but I still believe the disagree button has no place in any forum.
Disagree. If we can't self-police by ignoring trolls or shaming them, then mods can occasionally step in. Needed; perhaps monthly?
NPRK-US Peace Summit medals/tokens/challenge coins and no disagree button? Where are the laughs?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@FSF said:
The disagree button appeared to make no sense. You're just asking for an antagonistic environment. Besides, it's completely lame for people to disagree without stating why, which would help with the quality of content on this forum. Of course that may also lead to too many tit for tat exchanges but I still believe the disagree button has no place in any forum.
Hopefully, I've made my point and can stop yelling.
Removing that silly button does not improve civility or dialogue EXCEPT where people obsessed with the button are concerned. If you never looked at the "scoreboard", you never even knew anyone had disagreed with you. And if you weren't obsessed with the anonymous agreement from total strangers, you wouldn't care even if you did notice.
It would be interesting to read the minutes, hear everyone's opinion, how this decision unfolded, just who said what to whom and how many participated because.........eliminating such a function has just closed a door for a possible open debate. Maybe I missed it but has anyone receiving a disagree tried sending a simple PM to ask why? I'm certain they have and if they don't reply, move on. Of course, someone who is abusing the system and constantly doesn't reply, I would ask the moderator to simply remove the disagrees. But removing this function has eliminated a very important means to measure someone up whether one would work a transaction with. A means to reach out to this individual. While I may have used the disagree, I can't remember for what but one doesn't need to explain each and every time if he believes there are two sides to the argument. For most, it takes longer to see another's point and so time is needed. Or a matter is really not all that important to argue.
The forum should had made notice to the other members that someone has abused the system. But the "lol" function will be the next to go if we have a few people here who do not practice better tolerance. So what! If someone doesn't want to learn or see your point of view......don't cry about it and complain. Simply move on. Hopefully, they will open up, ask a question and resolve the matter. But now, we're shoving people back into their closets. Maybe that's fine for some of you but it's not productive.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
Thank you for the feedback everyone. What happened over the weekend was unfortunate. We provide this forum as a way for our community to share knowledge and socialize in a positive and constructive way. We found that more often than not, the disagree function led to inappropriate retaliation and negativity. We believe in each of our forum member's ability to still successfully disagree with someone using a written response in lieu of clicking a button.
Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.
With all of that being said, the rules for this forum are clearly posted. Inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated. We encourage you to use the flag functionality when warranted and we will do our best to review and act accordingly.
I hope that this answers any lingering questions or concerns on this matter.
Once again, thank you all for your contributions to this community, Let's continue to make this forum a welcoming source of information for new and seasoned numismatists.
@FSF said:
The disagree button appeared to make no sense. You're just asking for an antagonistic environment. Besides, it's completely lame for people to disagree without stating why, which would help with the quality of content on this forum. Of course that may also lead to too many tit for tat exchanges but I still believe the disagree button has no place in any forum.
Too bad we can't get a Noice button up in here. lulz
@HeatherBoyd said:
Thank you for the feedback everyone. What happened over the weekend was unfortunate. We provide this forum as a way for our community to share knowledge and socialize in a positive and constructive way. We found that more often than not, the disagree function led to inappropriate retaliation and negativity. We believe in each of our forum member's ability to still successfully disagree with someone using a written response in lieu of clicking a button.
Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.
With all of that being said, the rules for this forum are clearly posted. Inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated. We encourage you to use the flag functionality when warranted and we will do our best to review and act accordingly.
I hope that this answers any lingering questions or concerns on this matter.
Once again, thank you all for your contributions to this community, Let's continue to make this forum a welcoming source of information for new and seasoned numismatists.
Heather Boyd
Director of Marketing
Can you tell us what the "PROMOTE" number represents?
0
Promote
476
Agree
743
Like
348
LOL
Everyone seems to have a 0 under this heading and none of us have been able to figure out what it stands for?
@HeatherBoyd said:
Thank you for the feedback everyone. What happened over the weekend was unfortunate. We provide this forum as a way for our community to share knowledge and socialize in a positive and constructive way. We found that s forum a welcoming source of information for new and seasoned numismatists.
@HeatherBoyd said:
Thank you for the feedback everyone. What happened over the weekend was unfortunate. We provide this forum as a way for our community to share knowledge and socialize in a positive and constructive way. We found that more often than not, the disagree function led to inappropriate retaliation and negativity. We believe in each of our forum member's ability to still successfully disagree with someone using a written response in lieu of clicking a button.
Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.
With all of that being said, the rules for this forum are clearly posted. Inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated. We encourage you to use the flag functionality when warranted and we will do our best to review and act accordingly.
I hope that this answers any lingering questions or concerns on this matter.
Once again, thank you all for your contributions to this community, Let's continue to make this forum a welcoming source of information for new and seasoned numismatists.
Heather Boyd
Director of Marketing
A MILLION thanks for taking action to address a messy situation, and then reassessing part of the action taken based on user sentiment. I do think the forum will be an even better place once the dust settles.
I like rough and tumble debate, let the chips fall where they may. As long as basic rules of civility are followed, the forum will be an equitable trade of ideas and analysis. I don't know any other forum that has had a disagree button probably for good reason. And I am a member of well over a dozen forums; there are probably people here that are members of multiples of that. And I'm sure moderators get tired of weenies complaining about other members. Live and let live. This is just a numismatics forum anyway.
""Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.''"
--Keyboard interlock devices may not be a bad idea.
I only got one intentional "spam" and "disagree" - any others that I received were easily resolved as they were finger slips by the individuals on mobile devices (or so they said )
The marks that did not get removed were both by a single poster - I won't out them - that basically said "too bad, I'm leaving it". I happily blocked them - they didn't really contribute that much substance, anyway.
I really have appreciated @Paradisefound on these boards - she has set a great example, and has (along with advancing age) mellowed my cynical, sarcastic side - or at least made me think twice before hitting "Post Comment".
@leothelyon said:
It would be interesting to read the minutes, hear everyone's opinion, how this decision unfolded, just who said what to whom and how many participated because.........eliminating such a function has just closed a door for a possible open debate. Maybe I missed it but has anyone receiving a disagree tried sending a simple PM to ask why? I'm certain they have and if they don't reply, move on. Of course, someone who is abusing the system and constantly doesn't reply, I would ask the moderator to simply remove the disagrees. But removing this function has eliminated a very important means to measure someone up whether one would work a transaction with. A means to reach out to this individual. While I may have used the disagree, I can't remember for what but one doesn't need to explain each and every time if he believes there are two sides to the argument. For most, it takes longer to see another's point and so time is needed. Or a matter is really not all that important to argue.
The forum should had made notice to the other members that someone has abused the system. But the "lol" function will be the next to go if we have a few people here who do not practice better tolerance. So what! If someone doesn't want to learn or see your point of view......don't cry about it and complain. Simply move on. Hopefully, they will open up, ask a question and resolve the matter. But now, we're shoving people back into their closets. Maybe that's fine for some of you but it's not productive.
Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.
Will you approach them when the time is right? Or do they need to contact you, Heather, or someone else? If so, when?
I understand there was no message or explanation to the newly banned members. Just an inability to log-in.
I imagine they'd like to know how, when, and to whom to atone.
Lance.
Thank you, Heather.
It was unfortunate it went as far as it did, due mainly to 1 or 2 bad apples, and some good, knowledgeable, positive folks found themselves on the, momentary, wrong side of things.
Agree that it shouldn't have happened, and they should have tried a little harder to ignore/walk away, but, sometimes in life, outside forces influence our behavior and we do things we know we shouldn't.
As a member here, for awhile, who has benefitted from the knowledge sharing of others, some of whom were banned, and from PCGS having these forums so I could learn, move myself forward with the numismatic knowledge, I thank you again.
@leothelyon said:
It would be interesting to read the minutes, hear everyone's opinion, how this decision unfolded, just who said what to whom and how many participated because.........eliminating such a function has just closed a door for a possible open debate. Maybe I missed it but has anyone receiving a disagree tried sending a simple PM to ask why? I'm certain they have and if they don't reply, move on. Of course, someone who is abusing the system and constantly doesn't reply, I would ask the moderator to simply remove the disagrees. But removing this function has eliminated a very important means to measure someone up whether one would work a transaction with. A means to reach out to this individual. While I may have used the disagree, I can't remember for what but one doesn't need to explain each and every time if he believes there are two sides to the argument. For most, it takes longer to see another's point and so time is needed. Or a matter is really not all that important to argue.
The forum should had made notice to the other members that someone has abused the system. But the "lol" function will be the next to go if we have a few people here who do not practice better tolerance. So what! If someone doesn't want to learn or see your point of view......don't cry about it and complain. Simply move on. Hopefully, they will open up, ask a question and resolve the matter. But now, we're shoving people back into their closets. Maybe that's fine for some of you but it's not productive.
Microagression alert
You forgot the exclamation point.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
Thought of a great name for the problems we have been having:
“The Trouble With Quibbles!”
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I just got a letter from CU and I opened it and all my disagrees fell out all over my desk, did ya get yours yet
I suppose some will require a shipping package
@OldEastside said:
I just got a letter from CU and I opened it and all my disagrees fell out all over my desk, did ya get yours yet
I suppose some will require a shipping package -Steve
@OldEastside said:
I just got a letter from CU and I opened it and all my disagrees fell out all over my desk, did ya get yours yet
I suppose some will require a shipping package -Steve
Comments
Noice!
No Safe Space button?
I never understood why it was introduced in the first place...
All you need is a new email address...
Actually, @Insider2 was more prone to hit the LOL than disagree when he wanted to mock something I said. I actually might have preferred a simple disagree rather than the sound of his laughter ringing in my ears.
STRONGLY DISAGREE
[issued just to prove a point]
I could also just go with
ONLY A MOUTH-BREATHING IDIOT WOULD SAY THAT!
[Issued to create more banter amongst community members]
Yeah! Let's just enjoy coins and CU together. Insider2 where are you? Peace Roy
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Disagree. If we can't self-police by ignoring trolls or shaming them, then mods can occasionally step in. Needed; perhaps monthly?
NPRK-US Peace Summit medals/tokens/challenge coins and no disagree button?
Where are the laughs? 
Yet they kept the "Agree" button?
Couldn't that mean if I don't click on every post to agree with it, I must, therefore, disagree with the statement?
This could cause a whole new level of insanity!
DISAGREE
SHUT UP!
The all caps is a nice touch!
Hopefully, I've made my point and can stop yelling.
Removing that silly button does not improve civility or dialogue EXCEPT where people obsessed with the button are concerned. If you never looked at the "scoreboard", you never even knew anyone had disagreed with you. And if you weren't obsessed with the anonymous agreement from total strangers, you wouldn't care even if you did notice.
Just wanted to make a point. Much love.
I just found out that I can't "Like" and "Agree" the same comment. How bizarre.
I'm converting to libertarian on this issue.
How liberal is that? 
It's always been that way, I guess you have to make up your mind.
It would be interesting to read the minutes, hear everyone's opinion, how this decision unfolded, just who said what to whom and how many participated because.........eliminating such a function has just closed a door for a possible open debate. Maybe I missed it but has anyone receiving a disagree tried sending a simple PM to ask why? I'm certain they have and if they don't reply, move on. Of course, someone who is abusing the system and constantly doesn't reply, I would ask the moderator to simply remove the disagrees. But removing this function has eliminated a very important means to measure someone up whether one would work a transaction with. A means to reach out to this individual. While I may have used the disagree, I can't remember for what but one doesn't need to explain each and every time if he believes there are two sides to the argument. For most, it takes longer to see another's point and so time is needed. Or a matter is really not all that important to argue.
The forum should had made notice to the other members that someone has abused the system. But the "lol" function will be the next to go if we have a few people here who do not practice better tolerance. So what! If someone doesn't want to learn or see your point of view......don't cry about it and complain. Simply move on. Hopefully, they will open up, ask a question and resolve the matter. But now, we're shoving people back into their closets. Maybe that's fine for some of you but it's not productive.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Thank you for the feedback everyone. What happened over the weekend was unfortunate. We provide this forum as a way for our community to share knowledge and socialize in a positive and constructive way. We found that more often than not, the disagree function led to inappropriate retaliation and negativity. We believe in each of our forum member's ability to still successfully disagree with someone using a written response in lieu of clicking a button.
Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.
With all of that being said, the rules for this forum are clearly posted. Inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated. We encourage you to use the flag functionality when warranted and we will do our best to review and act accordingly.
I hope that this answers any lingering questions or concerns on this matter.
Once again, thank you all for your contributions to this community, Let's continue to make this forum a welcoming source of information for new and seasoned numismatists.
Director of Marketing
Heather Boyd
PCGS Senior Director of Marketing
Too bad we can't get a Noice button up in here. lulz
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
I wish all of my substantive threads would generate this much attention.
Welcome back to all of the forum members we lost! I hope all of you come back when the ban is lifted.
Can you tell us what the "PROMOTE" number represents?
0
Promote
476
Agree
743
Like
348
LOL
Everyone seems to have a 0 under this heading and none of us have been able to figure out what it stands for?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Sweet! I just gained a STAR because of this!
Thank you for reaching out! We do love it here.
A MILLION thanks for taking action to address a messy situation, and then reassessing part of the action taken based on user sentiment. I do think the forum will be an even better place once the dust settles.
@HeatherBoyd, your first post is most
I like rough and tumble debate, let the chips fall where they may. As long as basic rules of civility are followed, the forum will be an equitable trade of ideas and analysis. I don't know any other forum that has had a disagree button probably for good reason. And I am a member of well over a dozen forums; there are probably people here that are members of multiples of that. And I'm sure moderators get tired of weenies complaining about other members. Live and let live. This is just a numismatics forum anyway.
""Having read through all of your reactions to the banning of some well-liked members we will be offering them admission back into the forum after a probationary period. We hope that they do return to provide their helpful insights and valued contributions.''"
--Keyboard interlock devices may not be a bad idea.
(Bump to the top so people don't miss the news).
I only got one intentional "spam" and "disagree" - any others that I received were easily resolved as they were finger slips by the individuals on mobile devices (or so they said
)
The marks that did not get removed were both by a single poster - I won't out them - that basically said "too bad, I'm leaving it". I happily blocked them
- they didn't really contribute that much substance, anyway.
I really have appreciated @Paradisefound on these boards - she has set a great example, and has (along with advancing age) mellowed my cynical, sarcastic side - or at least made me think twice before hitting "Post Comment".
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
As with the buttons, while such a response may be perfectly accurate, use at your own risk
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Microagression alert
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Will you approach them when the time is right? Or do they need to contact you, Heather, or someone else? If so, when?
I understand there was no message or explanation to the newly banned members. Just an inability to log-in.
I imagine they'd like to know how, when, and to whom to atone.
Lance.
Thank you, Heather.
It was unfortunate it went as far as it did, due mainly to 1 or 2 bad apples, and some good, knowledgeable, positive folks found themselves on the, momentary, wrong side of things.
Agree that it shouldn't have happened, and they should have tried a little harder to ignore/walk away, but, sometimes in life, outside forces influence our behavior and we do things we know we shouldn't.
As a member here, for awhile, who has benefitted from the knowledge sharing of others, some of whom were banned, and from PCGS having these forums so I could learn, move myself forward with the numismatic knowledge, I thank you again.
Best regards.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
You forgot the exclamation point.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
My Coin Blog
My Toned Lincoln Registry Set
Thought of a great name for the problems we have been having:
“The Trouble With Quibbles!”
NO MORE
Now how could anyone disagree with that sentiment.
No, really, how could anyone disagree - the darn button is gone!
...........real coin collector?
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
I had a bunch of Disagrees but was doing better with the help of a 12-step program.
I love those Far Side cartoons!
My YouTube Channel
I could care less about disagrees or other flags, I am here to learn and comment and will accept any criticism as warranted.
You may feel that way, but most coin dealers are very fragile
all around collector of many fine things
LOL. As opposed to all those well-adjusted collectors.
i was at least hoping for a different result this time, i reckon not
I just got a letter from CU and I opened it and all my disagrees fell out all over my desk, did ya get yours yet
I suppose some will require a shipping package
Steve
My Coin Blog
My Toned Lincoln Registry Set
My YouTube Channel
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection