@crazyhounddog said:
Now worth 29K. I'm so happy for him too as he is without question the man when it comes to grading these Buffs.
-This comment takes the cake. You leave 20 Grand on the table and are so happy about it and the dealer, who is that much richer? This is crazy talk and no one would/should be happy about that.
Do you have anything else to add?
You can't really be happy about leaving the 20K on the table. This whole post is bizarre, and I have no doubt the dealer is a nice guy. You make it sound like you are thrilled that someone else got the real money on a coin you owned, when you could have also just submitted it a few more times yourself. You even stated you felt it was 66+ or 67. (Which makes this even more bizarre by the way) I am sure I am not alone in thinking that is strange, but no one else speaks up once the herd mentality takes over in a thread.
Finally, isn't this dealer also adding to the perceived Grade-Flation by submitting over and over again?
Sometimes in the world of coin collecting it is not just about the money. It is about forging good solid relationships with trusted individuals.
The true reward comes back many fold.
Pete
"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
Andy and Alynne are two of the nicest in our hobby.
With their personalities and top notch inventory, it
is no wonder that there are several collectors at
their tables at any one time.
That is the coolest story of the year, and Andy is one heck of a guy, and congrats on your pick, that is the coolest 15D I have ever seen.........again Congrats
@OldEastside said:
That is the coolest story of the year, and Andy is one heck of a guy, and congrats on your pick, that is the coolest 15D I have ever seen.........again Congrats
Steve
Thank you
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
First: Eye catching & beautiful Buff! Congratulations. It's a great feeling when you get a coin that nice.
Second: Andy is the best. He is a wonderful dealer but more than that, I consider him a real friend. Very recently, I was going through my Lincolns and marveling at how much Andy has helped me build my collection. All the way, from the first coin I bought from him (pictured as my avatar, total coincidence!) to the most recent - he has treated me with respect, kindness and total honesty. Alynne is wonderful too and they are special people for sure.
Third: Go Pens...Andy is a die hard Pittsburgh Penguins fan and somehow he got me to join along.
Finally: Enjoy! Although obviously you don't need me to tell you that
Andy has also been a true friend to me. His knowledge on buffalo nickels has bowled me over from the gate. I have gravitated to him for his honesty and integrity.
Thank you for the kind words.
Joe
@deefree49 said:
First: Eye catching & beautiful Buff! Congratulations. It's a great feeling when you get a coin that nice.
Second: Andy is the best. He is a wonderful dealer but more than that, I consider him a real friend. Very recently, I was going through my Lincolns and marveling at how much Andy has helped me build my collection. All the way, from the first coin I bought from him (pictured as my avatar, total coincidence!) to the most recent - he has treated me with respect, kindness and total honesty. Alynne is wonderful too and they are special people for sure.
Third: Go Pens...Andy is a die hard Pittsburgh Penguins fan and somehow he got me to join along.
Finally: Enjoy! Although obviously you don't need me to tell you that
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
BTW - The quote on your posts "The bitterness of 'poor quality' is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." - So, so true - That has REALLY stuck with me ever since I first saw it. Thank you for that!
BTW - The quote on your posts "The bitterness of 'poor quality' is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." - So, so true - That has REALLY stuck with me ever since I first saw it. Thank you for that!
My father told me that from as far back as I can remember and all of his wonderful life. He was a great man that worked for NASA and had a brilliant mind.
Thank you again for the kind words.
Much appreciated
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
@crazyhounddog said:
Andy, with his great knowledge and wisdom of grading sent that same 16-d in 4 times. On the forth submission it graded 66+ . Now worth 29K.
Two observations here:
-Great knowledge and wisdom of grading? He sent it in enough times until it upgraded. New flash, you could have easily done the same. (It does not take any wisdom or knowledge to simply resubmit coins over and over again.)
-Great friend? You put 15-20K in the guys pocket and that makes him a great friend? He should be the one posting this about you.
You should be ashamed of the way you carry yourself on this forum. I’m not exactly sure why it’s tolerated. You go around and unscrupulously flag and disagree with good folks for no apparent reason. I sure would like you to explain away the flags and disagrees you gave me and others on this thread.
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
I would bet that is someone's alt account that they use for stirring up trouble. Not sure how else to explain the consistent negativity in all of their posts. While he/she might bring up some decent points at times, it can be done with much more tact. Disagreements are fine but there's no need to start a fight about it.
@ChrisH821 said:
I would bet that is someone's alt account that they use for stirring up trouble. Not sure how else to explain the consistent negativity in all of their posts. While he/she might bring up some decent points at times, it can be done with much more tact. Disagreements are fine but there's no need to start a fight about it.
It’s tough. I flagged him cause I do not like his resentful contribution and negative tone. So, in turn, he went back and flagged comments and he gave me more than I can count disagrees that don’t even make any sense. He went back and did this AFTER I slept on flagging him or not for his negative bs. Seems like someone has some serious issues and it’s not me.
Carry on
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
"It’s tough. I flagged him cause I do not like his resentful contribution and negative tone. So, in turn, he went back and flagged comments and he gave me more than I can count disagrees that don’t even make any sense. He went back and did this AFTER I slept on flagging him or not for his negative bs. Seems like someone has some serious issues and it’s not me.
Carry on"
Don't let it have any effect because he's done this same thing before! He did this to a friend of mine. Went into all the posts and disagreed with all of them! Crazy! I don't get the negativity or vindictiveness. Gosh! You get a great coin, you're treated in a special way and somehow he thinks this requires criticism?
I say, don't worry, be happy. There are nice folks on the forum and those are the ones who deserve attention. You still have your great coin. Nothing he says can change that. Andy is wonderful and does things that are above and beyond. He can't undo that either.
As to the "point of contention", Andy supplies the energy and the will to make upgrades successful. He applies his experience, superior eye and careful planning to get upgrades. He's done it for me and has a 50% success rate! One coin went up 2 whole grades! That should count as two! I never would have been able to pull that off on my own. The capper is that he includes the customer in the gains even after the "deal is done".
The only motivation I can see that would bring someone to criticize this would be jealousy, pure and simple.
Anyways, I say; ENJOY your beautiful Buffalo. Also, Andy is the man!
@deefree49 said:
"It’s tough. I flagged him cause I do not like his resentful contribution and negative tone. So, in turn, he went back and flagged comments and he gave me more than I can count disagrees that don’t even make any sense. He went back and did this AFTER I slept on flagging him or not for his negative bs. Seems like someone has some serious issues and it’s not me.
Carry on"
Don't let it have any effect because he's done this same thing before! He did this to a friend of mine. Went into all the posts and disagreed with all of them! Crazy! I don't get the negativity or vindictiveness. Gosh! You get a great coin, you're treated in a special way and somehow he thinks this requires criticism?
I say, don't worry, be happy. There are nice folks on the forum and those are the ones who deserve attention. You still have your great coin. Nothing he says can change that. Andy is wonderful and does things that are above and beyond. He can't undo that either.
As to the "point of contention", Andy supplies the energy and the will to make upgrades successful. He applies his experience, superior eye and careful planning to get upgrades. He's done it for me and has a 50% success rate! One coin went up 2 whole grades! That should count as two! I never would have been able to pull that off on my own. The capper is that he includes the customer in the gains even after the "deal is done".
The only motivation I can see that would bring someone to criticize this would be jealousy, pure and simple.
Anyways, I say; ENJOY your beautiful Buffalo. Also, Andy is the man!
Very well said my friend. You have a way with words.
I can not say enough good things about my friend Andy and that energy you mentioned that he brings to the table with coins and knowledge is next to none.
As to this Buffalo Nickel I’m showing, the obverse strike is amazing with the sharp rims it displays and needle sharp details makes it a standout. On the flip side it’s all there too. Just look at that split tail
Thanks again
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Back in the spring of this year, a friend who's a Lincoln collector picked up about 250 raw, red Lincoln's and asked me to take a shot at grading them. I poured over them with my limited Lincoln knowledge and separated out about 15 I thought were the nicest.
I then brought them to the Central States show in Schaumburg, Ill. where Angel Dee's was in attendance. Mind you, I've never bought a thing from the man but he was kind enough to offer (obviously non binding) grading opinions ensuring that the coins submitted to PCGS were sufficiently worthy of encapsulating (MS 66's in most cases).
Two went MS 67, about 6 went MS 66, with the balance of the 16 coins grading MS 65 or MS 64 while being much tougher dates. With Lincolns it's easy to have a coin not worth the price of encapsulation, these all were worth the cost.
Andy quickly pointed out the area I was not focusing on enough and that saved my ass.
I'm often tough with my comments about Dealers and coin shows based upon my experience with each. In this case the man deserves "props" for certainly doing right by me. Glad this thread was created so I could chime in.
If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
Years ago Andy asked me to find a nice restaurant close to the Santa Clara coin show and to book it for 16-18 people. He then invited some of his best customers and coin-friends who lived in the area, along with their SO's, to a wonderful dinner party. A little show-and-tell followed. @crazyhounddog and @SanctionII were there, along with their wives. Others I should remember.
Andy and Alynne treated everyone. Just because. That's the kind of people the Skrabalaks are. Warm, considerate and generous.
They did this on several other occasions of which I was a part -- smaller spontaneous dinners following shows.
I was happy to return the favor six or seven years ago. It was just the two of us and we talked coins and grading, of course...for nearly two hours. I felt like a university freshman attending a lecture by the department head.
Lance.
@lkeigwin said:
Years ago Andy asked me to find a nice restaurant close to the Santa Clara coin show and to book it for 16-18 people. He then invited some of his best customers and coin-friends who lived in the area, along with their SO's, to a wonderful dinner party. A little show-and-tell followed. @crazyhounddog and @SanctionII were there, along with their wives. Others I should remember.
Andy and Alynne treated everyone. Just because. That's the kind of people the Skrabalaks are. Warm, considerate and generous.
They did this on several other occasions of which I was a part -- smaller spontaneous dinners following shows.
I was happy to return the favor six or seven years ago. It was just the two of us and we talked coins and grading, of course...for nearly two hours. I felt like a university freshman attending a lecture by the department head.
Lance.
I too remember that dinner. It was a blast. Andy & Alynne invited my wife and I along with , Lance and his charming wife and my good friend, Sanction ll. I do believe my friend Skyman might have attended along with a few other couples that I apologize for not remembering their names. Andy requested that we all bring one of our favorite coins along for a show and tell. Many BEAUTIFUL coins were passed around that table. It was a coin/dinner occasion even my wife truly enjoyed. The company at that table was the kind you might only experience once in a lifetime. That is if you’re a coin nerd like me
Andy and Alynne are the finest folks I’ve ever known attached to this hobby/business we all enjoy. I’m old
Great memories, Lance
Happy hunting
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Negativity sometimes rears its ugly head from jealousy. Now, I ain't sayin that's the case here. I don't know what the case is because half the time I myself can be a basket case.
To each his own.
If I lost something big to get something I really appreciate, it is NO LOSS AT ALL.
I don't give a DAMN about losses or gains,,,,,,just about the coin I covet.
Because to me, after all, This is a HOBBY.
Pete
"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
With all the praise being placed upon Angel Dee's in this thread I deceided to go to his Web Site and I found a couple of coins that I really liked. (Well there were alot of coins that I liked but money is an object)
I ordered these (2) coins,,,,, both are lower priced coins but I liked them and they will be here on Saturday.
@koynekwest said:
I've looked at many of his coins in the past, Joe. If you say he's a good guy I believe it but I've never heard anything but good comments about him.
He comes highly recommended, Ron. I can’t say enough good things about my man, Andy.
Thanks for chiming in
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
At a stupendously slow show I wandered by Andy’s table and just chit-chatted for 20-30 minutes. He was gracious to a fault and it was the best possible use of my time. Nice to see the good guys get recognized.
I remember the dinner at Santa Clara hosted by Andy and his wife the Lance and Joe mentioned. My wife and I attended. It was a lovely evening, with good food, good conversation, great people and great coins. Skyman also attended.
@SanctionII said:
I remember the dinner at Santa Clara hosted by Andy and his wife the Lance and Joe mentioned. My wife and I attended. It was a lovely evening, with good food, good conversation, great people and great coins. Skyman also attended.
I'm embarrassed to have forgotten @SkyMan. Besides Andy's fun dinner we met at a couple of shows and enjoyed lunch together, sharing newp's. @SkyMan is extraordinarily entertaining...if you can get past his outer space fixation.
Lance.
@SanctionII said:
I remember the dinner at Santa Clara hosted by Andy and his wife the Lance and Joe mentioned. My wife and I attended. It was a lovely evening, with good food, good conversation, great people and great coins. Skyman also attended.
As anyone that has stumbled upon this thread can see there is a lot of love for Andy and his wife.
His service with his customers reminds me when I would roll into a gas station back in the 50’s with my dad in his big Cadillac. Anyone my age remembers too how the gas station attendants really did attend to your car. They’d coming running out of the garage wiping there’s hands off to throw open the hood and check the fluid levels, not just the oil, while this other guy checks the tires and washed both windshields. It was called, service. Those days are gone but I’m happy to say we still have guys like, Andy.
Thank you to all good folks for chiming in and sharing what a great guy he is. When it comes to Buffalo Nickels, Andy is my rockstar.
Happy hunting, Joe
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
@Raybo said:
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
I'm thinking that his comments were limited to whatever it is you were interested in trading. Here is what the Angel Dees website says:
"Trading
We will gladly consider taking your quality coins in trade. Please contact us to discuss mutually agreeable terms of trading."
"We are also interested in repurchasing any coins we have sold to you. Since we liked them enough to sell them the first time, we would love to have them back to sell again! The price you paid will be considered, as well as current market value, to determine the purchase price."
@Raybo said:
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
Hey now,
Yes he does trade, Ray. He also purchases coins from you obviously. He’s the kinda a guy that will actually work with you on most anything is what I have experienced. Great inventory too.
Happy hunting, Joe
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
@Raybo said:
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
Andy does take trades, but it depends on a lot of things. Does he need or want the item your trading and at the price you want for it? Is his coin nicer than what you are offering or more rare or harder to replace? Is his coin on consignment and the owner doesn't want to trade? Could it be a cash-flow issue where a trade currently isn't desirable? Dealers can't just trade because you want to. It has to be mutually beneficial. So maybe there were circumstances THAT DAY for THAT TRANSACTION that just couldn't work out.
@Raybo said:
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
Hey now,
Yes he does trade, Ray. He also purchases coins from you obviously. He’s the kinda a guy that will actually work with you on most anything is what I have experienced. Great inventory too.
Happy hunting, Joe
Hi Joe!
Well I'm guessing Andy must have been in a bad mood this past April.
I brought a limited amount of cash because I had a boatload of certified (mostly PCGS) 2 Cent Pieces to trade or upgrade and he told me "I don't take trades".
Internet is one thing, but a major coin show? He also told me that my ANACS coins were not worth looking at, so I walked away.
This was the first day of public attendance and I was at his table at about 10:30 AM and the show opened at 10:00 AM.
@Raybo said:
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
Andy does take trades, but it depends on a lot of things. Does he need or want the item your trading and at the price you want for it? Is his coin nicer than what you are offering or more rare or harder to replace? Is his coin on consignment and the owner doesn't want to trade? Could it be a cash-flow issue where a trade currently isn't desirable? Dealers can't just trade because you want to. It has to be mutually beneficial. So maybe there were circumstances THAT DAY for THAT TRANSACTION that just couldn't work out.
Andy didn't even want to look at what I had to offer so I walked.
Angel Dee's does have a VERY GOOD inventory of my series but it just didn't work that day for some reason. I did have a good show even though I had to do more leg work.
@Raybo said:
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
Hey now,
Yes he does trade, Ray. He also purchases coins from you obviously. He’s the kinda a guy that will actually work with you on most anything is what I have experienced. Great inventory too.
Happy hunting, Joe
Hi Joe!
Well I'm guessing Andy must have been in a bad mood this past April.
I brought a limited amount of cash because I had a boatload of certified (mostly PCGS) 2 Cent Pieces to trade or upgrade and he told me "I don't take trades".
Internet is one thing, but a major coin show? He also told me that my ANACS coins were not worth looking at, so I walked away.
This was the first day of public attendance and I was at his table at about 10:30 AM and the show opened at 10:00 AM.
I’m sorry you had s bad experience my friend. All I can say I’ve never seen that side of, Andy.
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Comments
Sometimes in the world of coin collecting it is not just about the money. It is about forging good solid relationships with trusted individuals.
The true reward comes back many fold.
Pete
Joe: This herd mentality of yours HAS to stop!
Pete
Andy and Alynne are two of the nicest in our hobby.
With their personalities and top notch inventory, it
is no wonder that there are several collectors at
their tables at any one time.
Real nice coin!!
That is the coolest story of the year, and Andy is one heck of a guy, and congrats on your pick, that is the coolest 15D I have ever seen.........again Congrats
Steve
Thank you
First: Eye catching & beautiful Buff! Congratulations. It's a great feeling when you get a coin that nice.
Second: Andy is the best. He is a wonderful dealer but more than that, I consider him a real friend. Very recently, I was going through my Lincolns and marveling at how much Andy has helped me build my collection. All the way, from the first coin I bought from him (pictured as my avatar, total coincidence!) to the most recent - he has treated me with respect, kindness and total honesty. Alynne is wonderful too and they are special people for sure.
Third: Go Pens...Andy is a die hard Pittsburgh Penguins fan and somehow he got me to join along.
Finally: Enjoy! Although obviously you don't need me to tell you that
Andy has also been a true friend to me. His knowledge on buffalo nickels has bowled me over from the gate. I have gravitated to him for his honesty and integrity.
Thank you for the kind words.
Joe
Joe - you are most welcome!
BTW - The quote on your posts "The bitterness of 'poor quality' is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." - So, so true - That has REALLY stuck with me ever since I first saw it. Thank you for that!
My father told me that from as far back as I can remember and all of his wonderful life. He was a great man that worked for NASA and had a brilliant mind.
Thank you again for the kind words.
Much appreciated
You should be ashamed of the way you carry yourself on this forum. I’m not exactly sure why it’s tolerated. You go around and unscrupulously flag and disagree with good folks for no apparent reason. I sure would like you to explain away the flags and disagrees you gave me and others on this thread.
I would bet that is someone's alt account that they use for stirring up trouble. Not sure how else to explain the consistent negativity in all of their posts. While he/she might bring up some decent points at times, it can be done with much more tact. Disagreements are fine but there's no need to start a fight about it.
Collector, occasional seller
It’s tough. I flagged him cause I do not like his resentful contribution and negative tone. So, in turn, he went back and flagged comments and he gave me more than I can count disagrees that don’t even make any sense. He went back and did this AFTER I slept on flagging him or not for his negative bs. Seems like someone has some serious issues and it’s not me.
Carry on
Great coin and an even better story!
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
"It’s tough. I flagged him cause I do not like his resentful contribution and negative tone. So, in turn, he went back and flagged comments and he gave me more than I can count disagrees that don’t even make any sense. He went back and did this AFTER I slept on flagging him or not for his negative bs. Seems like someone has some serious issues and it’s not me.
Carry on"
Don't let it have any effect because he's done this same thing before! He did this to a friend of mine. Went into all the posts and disagreed with all of them! Crazy! I don't get the negativity or vindictiveness. Gosh! You get a great coin, you're treated in a special way and somehow he thinks this requires criticism?
I say, don't worry, be happy. There are nice folks on the forum and those are the ones who deserve attention. You still have your great coin. Nothing he says can change that. Andy is wonderful and does things that are above and beyond. He can't undo that either.
As to the "point of contention", Andy supplies the energy and the will to make upgrades successful. He applies his experience, superior eye and careful planning to get upgrades. He's done it for me and has a 50% success rate! One coin went up 2 whole grades! That should count as two! I never would have been able to pull that off on my own. The capper is that he includes the customer in the gains even after the "deal is done".
The only motivation I can see that would bring someone to criticize this would be jealousy, pure and simple.
Anyways, I say; ENJOY your beautiful Buffalo. Also, Andy is the man!
Very well said my friend. You have a way with words.
I can not say enough good things about my friend Andy and that energy you mentioned that he brings to the table with coins and knowledge is next to none.
As to this Buffalo Nickel I’m showing, the obverse strike is amazing with the sharp rims it displays and needle sharp details makes it a standout. On the flip side it’s all there too. Just look at that split tail
Thanks again
Back in the spring of this year, a friend who's a Lincoln collector picked up about 250 raw, red Lincoln's and asked me to take a shot at grading them. I poured over them with my limited Lincoln knowledge and separated out about 15 I thought were the nicest.
I then brought them to the Central States show in Schaumburg, Ill. where Angel Dee's was in attendance. Mind you, I've never bought a thing from the man but he was kind enough to offer (obviously non binding) grading opinions ensuring that the coins submitted to PCGS were sufficiently worthy of encapsulating (MS 66's in most cases).
Two went MS 67, about 6 went MS 66, with the balance of the 16 coins grading MS 65 or MS 64 while being much tougher dates. With Lincolns it's easy to have a coin not worth the price of encapsulation, these all were worth the cost.
Andy quickly pointed out the area I was not focusing on enough and that saved my ass.
I'm often tough with my comments about Dealers and coin shows based upon my experience with each. In this case the man deserves "props" for certainly doing right by me. Glad this thread was created so I could chime in.
Years ago Andy asked me to find a nice restaurant close to the Santa Clara coin show and to book it for 16-18 people. He then invited some of his best customers and coin-friends who lived in the area, along with their SO's, to a wonderful dinner party. A little show-and-tell followed. @crazyhounddog and @SanctionII were there, along with their wives. Others I should remember.
Andy and Alynne treated everyone. Just because. That's the kind of people the Skrabalaks are. Warm, considerate and generous.
They did this on several other occasions of which I was a part -- smaller spontaneous dinners following shows.
I was happy to return the favor six or seven years ago. It was just the two of us and we talked coins and grading, of course...for nearly two hours. I felt like a university freshman attending a lecture by the department head.
Lance.
I too remember that dinner. It was a blast. Andy & Alynne invited my wife and I along with , Lance and his charming wife and my good friend, Sanction ll. I do believe my friend Skyman might have attended along with a few other couples that I apologize for not remembering their names. Andy requested that we all bring one of our favorite coins along for a show and tell. Many BEAUTIFUL coins were passed around that table. It was a coin/dinner occasion even my wife truly enjoyed. The company at that table was the kind you might only experience once in a lifetime. That is if you’re a coin nerd like me
Andy and Alynne are the finest folks I’ve ever known attached to this hobby/business we all enjoy. I’m old
Great memories, Lance
Happy hunting
Negativity sometimes rears its ugly head from jealousy. Now, I ain't sayin that's the case here. I don't know what the case is because half the time I myself can be a basket case.
To each his own.
If I lost something big to get something I really appreciate, it is NO LOSS AT ALL.
I don't give a DAMN about losses or gains,,,,,,just about the coin I covet.
Because to me, after all, This is a HOBBY.
Pete
With all the praise being placed upon Angel Dee's in this thread I deceided to go to his Web Site and I found a couple of coins that I really liked. (Well there were alot of coins that I liked but money is an object)
I ordered these (2) coins,,,,, both are lower priced coins but I liked them and they will be here on Saturday.
Beautiful buffalo!
I've looked at many of his coins in the past, Joe. If you say he's a good guy I believe it but I've never heard anything but good comments about him.
He comes highly recommended, Ron. I can’t say enough good things about my man, Andy.
Thanks for chiming in
At a stupendously slow show I wandered by Andy’s table and just chit-chatted for 20-30 minutes. He was gracious to a fault and it was the best possible use of my time. Nice to see the good guys get recognized.
I remember the dinner at Santa Clara hosted by Andy and his wife the Lance and Joe mentioned. My wife and I attended. It was a lovely evening, with good food, good conversation, great people and great coins. Skyman also attended.
I'm embarrassed to have forgotten @SkyMan. Besides Andy's fun dinner we met at a couple of shows and enjoyed lunch together, sharing newp's. @SkyMan is extraordinarily entertaining...if you can get past his outer space fixation.
Lance.
As anyone that has stumbled upon this thread can see there is a lot of love for Andy and his wife.
His service with his customers reminds me when I would roll into a gas station back in the 50’s with my dad in his big Cadillac. Anyone my age remembers too how the gas station attendants really did attend to your car. They’d coming running out of the garage wiping there’s hands off to throw open the hood and check the fluid levels, not just the oil, while this other guy checks the tires and washed both windshields. It was called, service. Those days are gone but I’m happy to say we still have guys like, Andy.
Thank you to all good folks for chiming in and sharing what a great guy he is. When it comes to Buffalo Nickels, Andy is my rockstar.
Happy hunting, Joe
Good looking nickel!
Andy doesn't take trades (or so he told me) so that still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
He did offer to take a coin in trade that I bought from him a few years earlier (I still had the invoice) but that was it as far as cashing in on any inventory that I had to offer.
He does have nice coins but a bad business practice?
I'm thinking that his comments were limited to whatever it is you were interested in trading. Here is what the Angel Dees website says:
"Trading
We will gladly consider taking your quality coins in trade. Please contact us to discuss mutually agreeable terms of trading."
"We are also interested in repurchasing any coins we have sold to you. Since we liked them enough to sell them the first time, we would love to have them back to sell again! The price you paid will be considered, as well as current market value, to determine the purchase price."
http://www.angeldees.com/services.php
Hey now,
Yes he does trade, Ray. He also purchases coins from you obviously. He’s the kinda a guy that will actually work with you on most anything is what I have experienced. Great inventory too.
Happy hunting, Joe
Andy does take trades, but it depends on a lot of things. Does he need or want the item your trading and at the price you want for it? Is his coin nicer than what you are offering or more rare or harder to replace? Is his coin on consignment and the owner doesn't want to trade? Could it be a cash-flow issue where a trade currently isn't desirable? Dealers can't just trade because you want to. It has to be mutually beneficial. So maybe there were circumstances THAT DAY for THAT TRANSACTION that just couldn't work out.
Hi Joe!
Well I'm guessing Andy must have been in a bad mood this past April.
I brought a limited amount of cash because I had a boatload of certified (mostly PCGS) 2 Cent Pieces to trade or upgrade and he told me "I don't take trades".
Internet is one thing, but a major coin show? He also told me that my ANACS coins were not worth looking at, so I walked away.
This was the first day of public attendance and I was at his table at about 10:30 AM and the show opened at 10:00 AM.
Andy didn't even want to look at what I had to offer so I walked.
Angel Dee's does have a VERY GOOD inventory of my series but it just didn't work that day for some reason. I did have a good show even though I had to do more leg work.
I’m sorry you had s bad experience my friend. All I can say I’ve never seen that side of, Andy.