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Does it see odd to you that PCGS doesn't photogragh every coin during the grading process?

Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

Yes, it's more work, but it seems like it would help collectors who have concerns about grade level, and general authenticity.

That fly-by-night company named 'NGC' does. :)

Anyway, seems weird to me. Would love to see them do this.

Dave

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

    Any rise in grading fees would be a problem for me and possibly for others.

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  • JeffersonFrogJeffersonFrog Posts: 949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes. It doesn't have to be a hi-res, tru-view quality pic either. Cell phone quality would do. Companies change their business processes all the time, at the end of the day I think it would be able to be done without increasing the price to customers. It might even help their quality control and would certainly help their counterfeit prevention measures (which surely are in progress).

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No it does not Seem Odd. I imagine they are under video 24/7 but to stop and take a picture would just add another bottleneck to the process. Wait times are discussed regularly here.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm still undecided !!! :'(

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  • CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 603 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't see it as odd but I wish they would do it.

    I don't buy that it would add another bottle neck to the grading process. It would take literally 5 seconds to put a coin under a camera and snap a non-fancy picture of it.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2018 3:07PM

    A while ago I asked if PCGS should make Gold Shield mandatory like they do for classic World coins, and the resounding response from the forums was “no”. However, it seems this would be a good way for PCGS to do photos for every coin.

  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could you imagine the poor soul that had to shoot every ASE in a monster box, 10 down only 490 to go, ugggggg....................

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The post office is now taking images of every single piece of mail. No offense to USPS workers intended, but if those knuckleheads can do it, anyone can! (I stole that line from my buddy mail-carrier.)

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    The post office is now taking images of every single piece of mail. No offense to USPS workers intended, but if those knuckleheads can do it, anyone can! (I stole that line from my buddy mail-carrier.)

    I'm sure they are only scans. Coins look crappy when scanned.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2018 8:51PM

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    The post office is now taking images of every single piece of mail. No offense to USPS workers intended, but if those knuckleheads can do it, anyone can! (I stole that line from my buddy mail-carrier.)

    USPS lost $2.7 billion in 2017 and $61.7 billion since 2007. Imagine if CU was that profitable? ;)

  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    +1 for imaging every coin. Too many fakes out there. I am new to this and wont buy a coin online without a trueview to compare against sellers pics.

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its simple you pay $10.00 they will take a nice picture of it. Some people don't think their coins are worth taking that picture for $10.00. Why take a picture of a coin if the owner does not want it taken. Its my coin if I want a picture taken I will tell them to do it. How about privacy?

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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It really shouldn’t be optional IMO. All coins should be imaged (doesn’t have to be fancy). It protects the next buyer of the coin. At least they can verify that the coin basically matches the one in the PCGS archive. Photo matches, serial number matches, grade matches. This ain’t rocket science. It also helps the owner when they sell the coin, as it improves the buyer’s overall confidence in the transaction. Just my 2 cents!

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gluggo said:
    Its simple you pay $10.00 they will take a nice picture of it. Some people don't think their coins are worth taking that picture for $10.00. Why take a picture of a coin if the owner does not want it taken. Its my coin if I want a picture taken I will tell them to do it. How about privacy?

    Privacy is an interesting point. Some top collectors don't want their coins imaged.

    On the pricing side, it might be worth asking how much would people pay extra for mandatory photos?

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just because they don't share them doesn't mean that they don't do it.

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  • AstroJoeAstroJoe Posts: 308 ✭✭✭

    I would like to see a picture. When I check the verification, I get the grade; but, I would to see a pic to at least see if it closely matches.
    I wonder if this would slow down counterfeits.

    Joe

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AstroJoe said:
    I would like to see a picture. When I check the verification, I get the grade; but, I would to see a pic to at least see if it closely matches.
    I wonder if this would slow down counterfeits.

    I think it would slow down counterfeits but it would also help if online auction sites automatically linked to cert verification for the particular coin, e.g. HA, eBay, Great Collections, etc. Not everyone takes the time to do a cert lookup.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pedzola said:
    +1 for imaging every coin. Too many fakes out there. I am new to this and wont buy a coin online without a trueview to compare against sellers pics.

    Moderns are no big deal but all classics should be imaged.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,397 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2018 9:09PM

    @Coinstartled said:

    Moderns are no big deal but all classics should be imaged.

    PCGS does this for classic world coins by requiring Gold Shield, but many here didn’t want this for US coins when it was discussed before. Perhaps things are different now?

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I predict it will happen in the next 12 months.
    Lance.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    PCGS does this for classic world coins by requiring Gold Shield, but many here didn’t want this for US coins when it was discussed before. Perhaps things are different now?

    I confirmed a suspicious NGC slab as fake about 5 years ago with the help of their imaging.

    Good thing to have on pricier coins.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    I predict it will happen in the next 12 months.
    Lance.

    It basically already did for world stuff.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be nice for coins valued over say $500. That’s a much smaller subset and the ones most likely to be counterfeited.

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 704 ✭✭✭✭

    How can you tell one silver eagle from another? Same with the ten’s of thousands of Morgan’s graded below MS64?

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