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Selling MULTIPLE PCGS VF 1901-S Barber quarters on eBay using stock photos? Really?

Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 4, 2018 10:09AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hmmmmm.....kinda sounds like that’s what they are implying in their description.

Might make sense to take the time to image the real coins?

Maybe I’ll PayPal them 50K and see what arrives? Free shipping. ;)

Dave

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-S-PCGS-VF20-Choice-1-KEY-Barber-Quarter-25C/273486255684

Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.

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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What kind of fools (besides APMEX) uses stock images to sell coins of this caliber? I mean seriously? You can't take the time to image them yourself or pay a professional to photograph them? Then they set it up with multiple quantity and state that one is VF-20 and the other is VF-25 and the buyer does not get to choose? Hmmm... I don't see either of those selling, EVER...

  • JeffersonFrogJeffersonFrog Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Odd. His other auctions have good pictures, and he does have a unique "photo-marketing" style. He seems to have higher end material and happy customers. He's done over $100k of sales in the last 90 days. He even accepted an Best Offer on his $1,000,000.02 Jefferson nickel error. He also has a $10,000,000 1891-O proof dime listed with 75 people watching.

    Who knows, maybe an assistant or store employee did this one.

    You gotta love eBay though, it's just another form of people-watching. : )

    If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.

    Tommy

  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to agree; it's very strange given this fellas selling record. :/

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffersonFrog said:
    You gotta love eBay though, it's just another form of people-watching. : )

    Yeah, it's the Walmart of the internet. Thank god I can't hear the kids screaming while I browse the listings...

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffersonFrog said:
    Odd. His other auctions have good pictures, and he does have a unique "photo-marketing" style. He seems to have higher end material and happy customers. He's done over $100k of sales in the last 90 days. He even accepted an Best Offer on his $1,000,000.02 Jefferson nickel error. He also has a $10,000,000 1891-O proof dime listed with 75 people watching.

    Who knows, maybe an assistant or store employee did this one.

    You gotta love eBay though, it's just another form of people-watching. : )

    That error sold for somewhere between $998-$1099, just for those who are curious.

  • SeatedTonersSeatedToners Posts: 392 ✭✭✭✭

    I looked at some of that sellers proof seated material a while back. They had an auction for PF66 seated quarters at a set price and said they had multiple years available but would send a random one that wasn't pictured. Kinda odd to me. They do have some pretty coins up every now and again, they pop up in my search box.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2018 10:08AM

    I believe eBay requires full pics of both sides of the slab for certified coin listings, although I'm not sure if this requirement is really enforced. I sent a message to the Seller, asking if they can post images of the two 1901-S quarters. Will report back.

    Have fun!
    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dave99B said:
    I believe eBay requires full pics of both sides of the slab for certified coin listings, although I'm not sure if this requirement is really enforced. I sent a message to the Seller, asking if they can post images of the two 1901-S quarters. Will report back.

    Have fun!
    Dave

    That's not a requirement, actually.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2018 10:40AM

    @Rexford - I believe you're correct. I don't see that requirement anymore, although I do see that it says don't use stock photos for certified coins.

    'Include a clear picture of the actual item being sold – don't use stock photos'

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FYI, I received two messages from the Seller:

    Message 1:
    Our two coins are sitting in a bank vault, which we will not visit until next week. However, we could substitute a PCGS VF30 (click the attached image) for the same price if you cannot wait. I do not own that coin so there would be no return privilege, but of course it will be the imaged PCGS VF30. I believe that I owned it at one point so I must have liked it.
    Actually, you would qualify for a $1,000 discount (net price $23,975) because you do not leave negative feedback and are thus not a backbreaker (unlike some Ebayers!). These 1901-S's sell like hot cakes in any grade, even with unsightly flaws/damage, so it may not be on the market for very long. I wanted to have my coins re-holdered and then sent to CAC, which will take several weeks. Thank you for your interest.

    Message 2:
    P.S Ebay continuously deletes our photos, as they do to thousands of other sellers (google it). Thus, even when we upload images, Ebay will most likely delete them.

    (The image referenced in Message 1 is shown below)

    Hmmmmm......
    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, looks like a seller that really doesn't want to help the customer. A 1901-S quarter is not like an 1881-S Morgan, which is what they treat it as, or at least it comes across that way.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing they are just 'trolling'. If someone bites, they reach out to the real owner of the coin(s), and pockets the difference. I've seen this a few times with higher priced material.

    By now. you might me asking 'What's the point of this entire thread, Dave?'. I have no idea...

    Have fun,
    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rexford said:

    @Dave99B said:
    I believe eBay requires full pics of both sides of the slab for certified coin listings, although I'm not sure if this requirement is really enforced. I sent a message to the Seller, asking if they can post images of the two 1901-S quarters. Will report back.

    Have fun!
    Dave

    That's not a requirement, actually.

    SURE IT IS:
    General guidelines for coins and paper money
    Include all relevant information that you know about the item, such as origin, date of issue, and condition
    Include a clear picture of the actual item being sold – don't use stock photos
    Include all information about any alterations that may have been made to the item
    Individually identify every item listed to avoid misunderstandings about what is for sale
    Don't list the item if you're unsure of its origin or authenticity

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:

    @Rexford said:

    @Dave99B said:
    I believe eBay requires full pics of both sides of the slab for certified coin listings, although I'm not sure if this requirement is really enforced. I sent a message to the Seller, asking if they can post images of the two 1901-S quarters. Will report back.

    Have fun!
    Dave

    That's not a requirement, actually.

    SURE IT IS:
    General guidelines for coins and paper money
    Include all relevant information that you know about the item, such as origin, date of issue, and condition
    Include a clear picture of the actual item being sold – don't use stock photos
    Include all information about any alterations that may have been made to the item
    Individually identify every item listed to avoid misunderstandings about what is for sale
    Don't list the item if you're unsure of its origin or authenticity

    None of those rules state anything about requiring a full slab shot. Those are also not rules, but general guidelines, as shown by the vague phrasing like "all relevant information that you know about the item", "clear picture", "individually identify", etc.

  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rexford said:

    @AUandAG said:

    @Rexford said:

    @Dave99B said:
    I believe eBay requires full pics of both sides of the slab for certified coin listings, although I'm not sure if this requirement is really enforced. I sent a message to the Seller, asking if they can post images of the two 1901-S quarters. Will report back.

    Have fun!
    Dave

    That's not a requirement, actually.

    SURE IT IS:
    General guidelines for coins and paper money
    Include all relevant information that you know about the item, such as origin, date of issue, and condition
    Include a clear picture of the actual item being sold – don't use stock photos
    Include all information about any alterations that may have been made to the item
    Individually identify every item listed to avoid misunderstandings about what is for sale
    Don't list the item if you're unsure of its origin or authenticity

    None of those rules state anything about requiring a full slab shot. Those are also not rules, but general guidelines, as shown by the vague phrasing like "all relevant information that you know about the item", "clear picture", "individually identify", etc.

    You also can use stock photos if you want - many sellers of certified bullion material do this, like Apmex. Any listing that allows for multiple purchases and is selling a single type of certified coin will be using stock photos.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rexford said:

    @AUandAG said:

    @Rexford said:

    @Dave99B said:
    I believe eBay requires full pics of both sides of the slab for certified coin listings, although I'm not sure if this requirement is really enforced. I sent a message to the Seller, asking if they can post images of the two 1901-S quarters. Will report back.

    Have fun!
    Dave

    That's not a requirement, actually.

    SURE IT IS:
    General guidelines for coins and paper money
    Include all relevant information that you know about the item, such as origin, date of issue, and condition
    Include a clear picture of the actual item being sold – don't use stock photos
    Include all information about any alterations that may have been made to the item
    Individually identify every item listed to avoid misunderstandings about what is for sale
    Don't list the item if you're unsure of its origin or authenticity

    None of those rules state anything about requiring a full slab shot. Those are also not rules, but general guidelines, as shown by the vague phrasing like "all relevant information that you know about the item", "clear picture", "individually identify", etc.

    I don't get it. A guideline is just that, rules to be followed. Nothing maybe about it or they wouldn't say it this way:

    we've established a set of guidelines for our sellers to follow. These guidelines cover what can and can't be sold on eBay, and the requirements for certain listings.

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't stand stock photo listings. I actually click out as soon as I realize it is one. I want to see the coin I am getting not matter what the cost.

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