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Wild Looking Morgan Toner

skier07skier07 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 19, 2018 4:29PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I was housecleaning when I stumbled upon this a few days ago. The coin was inside a notebook between the cardboard cover and the paper. It was probably sitting there for 35 years. I have no recollection of this coin and I was very surprised, needless to say, when I found it. I’m pretty sure the coin was blast white before I lost it.


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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m gonna have to do some more cleaning around here :)

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look right to me!
    Thinking AT

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great story.

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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat looking for sure. Highly doubt it will slab as market acceptable but still neat.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love those stories !!! :)

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2018 6:02PM

    May be legit, but convincing a tpgs it is may be a problem. Sure has an AT look. Edit to say it sure looks nice.

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    jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    I have no recollection of this coin

    @skier07 said:
    I’m pretty sure the coin was blast white before I lost it

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's terrible. Just terrible.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like blatant AT to me. Even if it were legitimate, I do not believe it is market acceptable.

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That looks as natural as Dolly Parton.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. Botox and all:)

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    ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone colored that one just outside the lines. Interesting.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    its not for me, pass

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Then it was artificially toned at least 35 years ago.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doubt any TPG would certify it.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t think it’s particularly attractive and I don’t think a TPG would straight grade it either.

    But from my perspective I find this to be an interesting coin. 35 years ago this coin was white and today, after sitting in a notebook tucked away in a box, it has this wild look to it.

    It really makes me think about the fine line between what’s AT and NT. Most of us agree that coins in old TPG’s or albums which develop secondary toning are NT. Taco Bell napkin coins with vibrant toning are probably considered NT by some. If we blow torch/cook a coin, or add chemicals to the surface we’d all agree that’s AT.

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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    I don’t think it’s particularly attractive and I don’t think a TPG would straight grade it either.

    But from my perspective I find this to be an interesting coin. 35 years ago this coin was white and today, after sitting in a notebook tucked away in a box, it has this wild look to it.

    It really makes me think about the fine line between what’s AT and NT. Most of us agree that coins in old TPG’s or albums which develop secondary toning are NT. Taco Bell napkin coins with vibrant toning are probably considered NT by some. If we blow torch/cook a coin, or add chemicals to the surface we’d all agree that’s AT.

    Which is the precise reason we are moving away from NT/AT to MA/NMA. It presents a much clearer guideline. However that line can change over the years so we are going to need to see how that takes shape.

    I don't doubt your story. It looks just like you would expect from sitting unmolested in between book pages for so long with the high central devices being trapped and "hermetically sealed" away from the atmosphere while an air gap space remained for the fields and peripheral devices to tone. However, the "look" would not be market acceptable. This coin is a perfect example of the need for the industry to shift away from NT/AT and into MA/NMA imo.

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    ShipwreckCoinHunterShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks cool but at the same time a bit of a suspicious color, send it off to be graded

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