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Is this Ike Dollar a die trial strike? Or die alignment strike

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually I think it is neither.
    Most likely a slightly filled die combined with a weak strike.

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭

    Just looks weakly struck to me.

    What makes you think adjustment/trial strike?

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck-through grease would not impact the design rim. While it could be a slightly tilted die, a weak strike could manifest in such a way as this on a large coin. I'd say a weak strike.

    @MikeInFL said:
    Just looks weakly struck to me.

    What makes you think adjustment/trial strike?

    What is the difference between a weak strike, die adjustment strike, and trial strike?

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What about a slightly tapered planchet? Do you have a weight?

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 4, 2018 1:31AM

    It might have been struck on a type-1 blank that skipped the upset mill operation.

    I once had a 1964 Kennedy half dollar that looked similar and I suspected was struck on a type-1 blank. So submitted for authentication and it was "slabbed" as such.

    Moonlight Mint
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NEITHER

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The right side of the obv. has
    a 'tapered end' planchet look to it.

    Normally, the reverse area opposite
    should have the same rounded appearance,
    which this piece doesn't have.

    The reverse area looks like a filled die area,
    but not the obv.

    Can you weigh the coin? I wonder if it's
    2-4 grams light......

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    WatchbelieveWatchbelieve Posts: 527 ✭✭✭

    22.63 grams

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's the normal weight, so the
    planchet is OK.

    Normal Weight: 350 grains
    Your coin: 349.18

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,521 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So where does that leave us? Did the die come down at a slight angle? Was the planchet the right weight but not even in thickness throughout?

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because the weight is normal,
    it's probably one of two causes:

    Because the fact that the obv. rim
    looks very different from the
    same are on the reverse, it's either
    a slightly tilted die strike, or as Dan says, possibly
    struck on a Type 1 (no upset rim) planchet.

    Usually, because the T.1 Blank is wider in diameter
    than a T.2 Planchet, they usually don't fit into the
    collar, so they are (most cases) either struck as
    partial collars (and we can tell it from the blank
    portion of the partial collar), or the blank sits on
    top of the collar, and is struck as a Broadstrike.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭

    @MikeInFL said:
    Just looks weakly struck to me.

    What makes you think adjustment/trial strike?

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Because the fact that the obv. rim
    looks very different from the
    same are on the reverse, it's either
    a slightly tilted die strike, or as Dan says, possibly
    struck on a Type 1 (no upset rim) planchet.

    Aha! I follow you guys now.

    Thanks for the explanation -- it was so big and right in front of me I failed to realize the relative placement of the weak features.

    Thanks again....Mike

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.

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