Post a coin which is R7 or rarer
Boosibri
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One massive benefit of collecting world coins is the accessibility of truly rare items, both from a condition and from an absolute perspective. The table below outlines a few of the rarity scales but for this purpose lets focus in on Sheldon. An R7 has 12 or fewer pieces extant in either absolute or in a conditional sense.
5 extant, this is the finest after seeing the other two 63's which are at best 58's or 61's.
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Awesome 4R @Boosibri !
Over the years I have only been able to track about a dozen of the 1814/3-HJ Mexico 8 Reales and have been lucky to acquire 2 of those. One from the Jose Leunda sale in 2011 and another this year from a collection being liquidated by the MCC guys.
Leunda coin went VF35 at our host
MCC coin is VF25 at NGC
8 Reales Madness Collection
Does it have to be a coin?
or is a Banknote also allowed?
Here are a couple of Brit pieces.
First is an 1837 proof sixpence. PR 65 NGC. Less than 10 made.
Next is a 1674 halfcrown of Charles II. Ms 61. Less than 10 known in British EF. this is a British GEF/AU piece.
R9/R10. Only known example and no recorded mintage.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
Why not
Latin American Collection
Some great photos in this thread.
Here are a few condition rarities at that level
1837-CR 4E in 64
1803NR 8E in 65
1815PTS 1 Sol in 66
Latin American Collection
The backstory on this one...1926 was the first year coins were minted for the newly independent Albania. Italy was the modern country most tied to Albania and the majority of coins were minted in Rome, and designed by an Italian.
One of the coins is the 20 FrA (20 franc). The obverse showcased the bust of Prince Skanderbeg, the national hero from the 1400s. The reverse, a winged lion. 6000 coins were minted with the R mintmark. Of that number 100 included a fasces above the mintmark. 90 are reported as melted and only 10 left. There have been 6 grading events at NGC, none at PCGS. One sold earlier in the month raw. I have no idea how many coins this actually represents though.
I would GUESS what happened was the initial design did include the fasces, but was rejected by the Albanians. There was a note produced about that time which had a single headed eagle. This was NOT accepted by the Albanian (people, government??) as the Albanian eagle is double headed. The note was withdrawn.
I would not be surprised if the fasces was 'too Italian' and the dies reworked to remove it for the remainder of the minting. An Albanian text describes this as a 'trial' but it is obviously not a prova as the other official Albanian trials are. It would make sense that these were the first 100, done more as 'trial run' than one of the official 'prova trials', and required the re-working to be acceptable to Albanians.
Through amazing luck, selling off some stuff quickly (hello APMEX, and more selling on Great Collections this weekend), and the help of our own @MrEureka who bid on this for me in an overseas auction, I actually now have one of the 10.
They sure don't seem to sell often (Heritage has had two, a raw one and an MS-61 in their archives), and TWO were up for sale this month in Europe. One raw, and this one obviously in NGC plastic. That pesky prong couldn't be more awkwardly located. With my luck this means a hoard (or the other 90 weren't melted) just got found.
Another Brit one.
1717 Proof Farthing, ex Cooke Collection, NGC PR 64 but described as gem both in the Cooke auction and by CNG who owned it for a time. Ive seen one that might match in quality but thats it.
I was thinking if posting this one here or in the tread by @MrEureka about damages coins that we love to have.
This is the crown jewel of the medals coined in Central America (back then part of the Mexican Empire) to commemorate the coronation of Emperor Agustin. According to Carlos Jara “On October 31, (1822), the mayor of Guatemala City indicated that the amount of coins (medals) to be minted for that purpose (proclamation of Agustin I) should be of 400 pesos (or 3200 medals of 1 Real). On November 21, the ceremony for distributing the medals was fixed for December 26, and on December 14, it was reported that: “striking of medals would start the following day, including 4 gold pieces – two for the Emperor, and one each for the Archbishop and General Captain Gabino Gainza”. Surviving specimens in gold (a single specimen) and silver (scarce) are known. Additionally, a few specimens of a mule striking in gold using the obverse of the Leon de Nicaragua medal and the reverse of this one are also known (two ex-Eliasberg, one recently sold by Heritage).” Therefore, as this is not the mule Nicaragua-Guatemala, it has a 50% possibility to be one of the medals presented to (and owned by) the Emperor. This is (despite the scratches on the bust of the Emperor) a very rare, possibly unique (or near unique likely R9 or R10!), medal.
here is a Newfoundland Cash Note.
Only ONE other is known and that is in the National currency Museum in Ottawa.
How would that note grade sent to PCGS?
I asked the Grader Not to publicise it. Hence it is not listed in any publication.
I decided to break that silence and post it
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Nice thread!
I am not sure if R7 or rarer, but it is the only one graded by either PCGS or NGC. Mexico, peso, 1902CN JQ 2/INV 2 MS63PL (ex Norweb). I think deserves to be here.
NGC MS64 Tibet-Szechuan copper 10 cents. This is the only one I encountered so far.
Concerning the Newfoundland 80 cent banknote/scrip:
Is there a particular known reason why that exact denomination might have been useful?
Many thanks in advance for any information.
Krause states there are 2 known in copper. I suspect these struck in copper were patterns or such struck to present to the government for approval.
Bill Dougan,
I am not aware of any special reason specifically allocated to this issue.
my thoughts are the same as for the 25, 40, 50 cent issues. and the $ 1, 2 and $ 5 issues.
The NFL Gov issued these notes as a form of immediate and secure payment when constructing roads. the notes had to be signed by the person in charge of the construction project for the notes to become valid for payment I guess similar to the much later available Travelers checks. I guess these were instead of checks which took a long time to clear. These notes were instantly convertible to cash through the Bank of Montreal and could also be used for payment of debts. Once the notes came back to the BoM, they were then cancelled.
This is as much as I am aware of. I could be wrong with some of the details.
when I had a chance to obtain this (and 3 others) scarce not raw, I simply had to have it.
After all, how often does one find something which is the only one in the wild, the other in a museum secured under glass?
"In 1901 the Government of Newfoundland, through its Department of Public Works, issued a series of Cash Notes. These Cash Notes were in denominations of forty, fifty and eighty cents and one and five dollars and were limited to the amount of money voted by the Legislature for Public Works each year. The value of the Note was probably tied in with the rate of wages for road work, which at the time was twenty cents an hour. They were printed in black on white paper with the date printed in red and signed by the Minister and Secretary of the Department of Public Works. They were also signed by the Chairman of the Local Roads Board when he had occasion to use them. "
https://therooms.ca/newfoundland-banking-institutions-and-currency
http://www.victoriancent.com
this is a neat thread
1858 Copper Nickel Trial Piece (PCGS SP-62), less than 10 extant. On a cracked planchet, priceless.
http://www.victoriancent.com
Here's another rare one with I believe 5 or 6 known!
1932 10 Zlotych Proof
--Severian the Lame
Thank you Bosox, your help much appreciated
guess I was sort of half right.
wow, what a 58 that is...
@amwldcoin - is that a novodel Polushka (Bitkin 1199) or the original?
8 Reales Madness Collection
There is some controversy...1(someone at heritage) out of 10 says it is a novodel. Every knowledgable person I showed it to that knows novodels says it is not a novodel. When I had it graded it was submitted with several novodels that were labeled as such. I know some history, it was found in an old New England antique shop with a group of coins related to the age and area. The planchet is irregular unlike a novodel. I personally believe it is an original and at 1 time owned about 20 Siberian Novodels!
1926 D Two Reichsmark Proben (pattern), Silver (1000 Fein) 10.2g, 26.2mm, 2.5mm thick, Schaaf 320 G2
Actually an R-8
No stinkin' plastic tomb here.
karlgoetzmedals.com
secessionistmedals.com
Unique, which ironically isn't uncommon for ancient coins, but this drachm is unique among the entire magistrate (and of a considerably higher caliber of artistry than the normal coins of Clazomenae):
The details in the hair,eyes and feathers are incredible!Head seems almost three dimensional!Gorgeous
1788 Peck 940 (early Soho), Bright Gilt, listed by Peck as Excessively Rare, currently 2 known, the other in the British Museum.
1958 Proof Halfpenny, Freeman 482, R19 - estimated mintage 2-5 (although I believe that is too low).
1964 Proof Halfpenny, Freeman 491A, R-19 - estimated mintage 2-5. Currently 3 known, this and two in the Royal Mint collection.
World Collection
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German States Collection
Very nice JCM!!
IRISH VIP Proof, 10-15 minted
Latin American Collection
Not a coin, but a Lovett medal, mintage of 5 pieces.
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Again, a medal -- not a coin. But, apparently around 30 or so of this Victoria Medal struck -- I've never seen another (and I've looked!).
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"Miss May 2017," I think. Nice picture, but they missed the slight PL look of the obverse. Not sure I have any R7 stuff -- probably not (which is what R7 means), but there's some cool stuff posted here.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Miss May it is... can you Photoshop out the stupid NGC prongs from that pic? Yours are awesome!
My numismatic goal in life is to have one coin per year featured in the Messydesk calendar.
Latin American Collection
I hate NGC holders.
I'd better check 2018's line-up. I started working on it this week.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
I have had nothing imaged yet given my UK local. I'll have to dig through a list of candidates for re-imaging!
Latin American Collection
I have had nothing imaged yet given my UK local. I'll have to dig through a list of candidates for re-imaging!
Latin American Collection