The New Doily Census - 2016 -- Updated March 22, 2026
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New addition as of 10/14/17 . . . .
Iowa Commem . . . . MS65 . . . . 7345533. Picked it up here locally in SLC after it was brought down from Portland, OR by a dealer.
Nice holder . . . nice coin. Typical Iowa . . . higher grade than the slab, but no biggy. Maybe to CAC just for fun, but it is irrelevant.
First Iowa in the Census . . .
Drunner
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If you guys hadn't seen it yet: I think it's the only maine in a doily?
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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...just got this one for a fair price
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Thanks for this thread, can't wait to own one!
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POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
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Nice pick-ups, folks!
Will update the census on Page 1 at the end of the month.
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Thanks for this thread, can't wait to own one!
Someday...~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
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Updated the spreadsheet on Page 1 during the slow moments in the World Series.
Thanks for all the updates!
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Thanks . . . . . not too many slow moments . . . . . Houston looking good through 7 . . .
Drunner
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This is a tougher type coin - went for $1040 at Great Collections. There were 2 $2.5's, MS60 and MS61 that went for a small premium.
I wanted it but not at that level.........congrats to the new owner!
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2 more tough type coins sold at GC.
And a nice buff with gold cac
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I was sweating that buff last night - had high bid for a while but was praying to be outbid as I have several buffs already - congrats to the new owners of all of them!
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Love that Shield . . . . . . . .
Drunner
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This one sold Buy it now. I did not see it on the list.
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Nice looking Walker - thanks for posting it. Sometimes the BIN's sneak by me.
Will post the updated spreadsheet at the end of the month.
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Updated as of 1-2-18. Will work on aligning the totals when I get a chance.
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one can check this link from time to time to see the most newly ended ones.
to be sure, here is the active "doily" search term link.
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one can check this link from time to time to see the most newly ended ones.
to be sure, here is the active "doily" search term link.
. <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -0 -
All beautiful pieces!
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@LanceNewmanOCC said:
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doily ebayone can check this link from time to time to see the most newly ended ones.
to be sure, here is the active "doily" search term link.
.I checked the sold listings. I hate seeing one I owned previously where the coin is a dog, not CAC worthy and goes for a crazy price on eBay. I get that some will always go high, but this one seemed real high and just a yuck coin.
I listed a saint on the BST today that can be added to the census.
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Added - nice looking coin!
Will try and post the latest spreadsheet this weekend.
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Updated as of 3-2-18, currently up to 919 Doilies!
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Here's a new one I picked up on eBay. It's not listed in the census yet.
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@Lakesammman said:
Then it's a Doily with the outer ring missing, either intentionally or accidentally, like this one.
Sometimes the outer ring breaks. It can be replaced. A buddy of mine is a part time grader and bought one of these without the outer ring. He had one laying around so now the slab is fixed.
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@ilikemonsters said:
@Lakesammman said:
Then it's a Doily with the outer ring missing, either intentionally or accidentally, like this one.Sometimes the outer ring breaks. It can be replaced. A buddy of mine is a part time grader and bought one of these without the outer ring. He had one laying around so now the slab is fixed.
That would be great if the outer rings could be replaced. I've seen so many with damaged outer rings. The last Doily I owned was an 1896 toned Morgan. But the outer ring broken and it really bothered me, so I had to sell it.
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Added - thanks.
I've had an outer ring fall off after minor trauma - wish more would do that so that some Doilies could be fixed!
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Some nice new Type here !
On your Doily rings . . . . there were certainly some bourse-floor-drops. But, apocrypha would also indicate some of the Doilies lost their rings intentionally so that the holders would fit into the original Rattler boxes. In any event . . . . .
If you need some advice on ring-replacement . . .send me a PM. There is a standard method of ring replacement that is ethically sound and not too tough to accomplish. I have never really worried about buying a Doily without a ring as some have . . . . . I am a lot more concerned about the interior portion. But . .sometimes I find those who are really freaked out about a crack or missing ring . . .and discount heavily. Those are some I target for purchase . . . .
Drunner
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I just picked up 5 silver commems in doilies:
ELGIN, MS64, 8183204
GETTYSBURG, MS64, 8183205
MARYLAND, MS64, 8183210
WISCONSIN, MS64, 8183206
YORK, MS65, 8183208Also got a DELAWARE in a rattler, MS63, 8016381
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@thefinn said:
I just picked up 5 silver commems in doilies:
ELGIN, MS64, 8183204
GETTYSBURG, MS64, 8183205
MARYLAND, MS64, 8183210
WISCONSIN, MS64, 8183206
YORK, MS65, 8183208Also got a DELAWARE in a rattler, MS63, 8016381
Any pics?
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Here they are. Just quickies with my phone in sunlight. Definitely PQ coins worthy of green or gold beans. Got them all for less than 10% below GS bid.
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Nice haul!
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Wow - those are some tough commem doilies - congrats!
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@DRUNNER said:
Some nice new Type here !On your Doily rings . . . . there were certainly some bourse-floor-drops. But, apocrypha would also indicate some of the Doilies lost their rings intentionally so that the holders would fit into the original Rattler boxes. In any event . . . . .
If you need some advice on ring-replacement . . .send me a PM. There is a standard method of ring replacement that is ethically sound and not too tough to accomplish. I have never really worried about buying a Doily without a ring as some have . . . . . I am a lot more concerned about the interior portion. But . .sometimes I find those who are really freaked out about a crack or missing ring . . .and discount heavily. Those are some I target for purchase . . . .
Drunner
You mean use the rings from the 2.0 holders? Never had any luck doing that.
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As a follow up, they all had their rings. I need to go back and see if they have any more hiding in plain sight. Obviously it was an older collection that was sold. I may have missed out on some.
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So we can ascertain that there were at least 3 Wisconsins, 2 of which can be verified. 8183207 [whereabouts unknown] was graded ms64.
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@BAJJERFAN said:
So we can ascertain that there were at least 3 Wisconsins, 2 of which can be verified. 8183207 [whereabouts unknown] was graded ms64.It may have been purchased before I saw them. I will ask the seller if he had more.
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I am hoping that this question has been answered previously. It looks like there are two types of Doilies - one with the green "gears", and one with the green gears with white "PCGS" lettering over the background in places. Are these two different varieties, or considered the same? It looks like the solid pattern (with earlier serial numbers) is scarcer than the ones with white PCGS overlays (later serial numbers).
Now that I look at more images, it looks like they all have the PCGS overlay, it just isn't as prominent on some images.thefinn0 -
@thefinn said:
I am hoping that this question has been answered previously. It looks like there are two types of Doilies - one with the green "gears", and one with the green gears with white "PCGS" lettering over the background in places. Are these two different varieties, or considered the same? It looks like the solid pattern (with earlier serial numbers) is scarcer than the ones with white PCGS overlays (later serial numbers).
Now that I look at more images, it looks like they all have the PCGS overlay, it just isn't as prominent on some images.There is a "retro" doily from a few years back that was granted to one submitter IIRC.> @thefinn said:
@BAJJERFAN said:
So we can ascertain that there were at least 3 Wisconsins, 2 of which can be verified. 8183207 [whereabouts unknown] was graded ms64.It may have been purchased before I saw them. I will ask the seller if he had more.
You can got to the cert number lookup utility and enter numbers similar to the ones you have so 8183207 is also a Wisconsin ms64. I have 1 and you have 1 which makes 2 known and verified. Until 8183207 is seen in hand it just potentially exists.
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@BAJJERFAN said:
@thefinn said:
I am hoping that this question has been answered previously. It looks like there are two types of Doilies - one with the green "gears", and one with the green gears with white "PCGS" lettering over the background in places. Are these two different varieties, or considered the same? It looks like the solid pattern (with earlier serial numbers) is scarcer than the ones with white PCGS overlays (later serial numbers).
Now that I look at more images, it looks like they all have the PCGS overlay, it just isn't as prominent on some images.There is a "retro" doily from a few years back that was granted to one submitter IIRC.> @thefinn said:
@BAJJERFAN said:
So we can ascertain that there were at least 3 Wisconsins, 2 of which can be verified. 8183207 [whereabouts unknown] was graded ms64.It may have been purchased before I saw them. I will ask the seller if he had more.
You can got to the cert number lookup utility and enter numbers similar to the ones you have so 8183207 is also a Wisconsin ms64. I have 1 and you have 1 which makes 2 known and verified. Until 8183207 is seen in hand it just potentially exists.
So only three Wisconsins were initially certified with the doily tag, but one may have been cracked for potential upgrade, or has just not yet been entered into the census.
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@thefinn said:
@BAJJERFAN said:
@thefinn said:
I am hoping that this question has been answered previously. It looks like there are two types of Doilies - one with the green "gears", and one with the green gears with white "PCGS" lettering over the background in places. Are these two different varieties, or considered the same? It looks like the solid pattern (with earlier serial numbers) is scarcer than the ones with white PCGS overlays (later serial numbers).
Now that I look at more images, it looks like they all have the PCGS overlay, it just isn't as prominent on some images.There is a "retro" doily from a few years back that was granted to one submitter IIRC.> @thefinn said:
@BAJJERFAN said:
So we can ascertain that there were at least 3 Wisconsins, 2 of which can be verified. 8183207 [whereabouts unknown] was graded ms64.It may have been purchased before I saw them. I will ask the seller if he had more.
You can got to the cert number lookup utility and enter numbers similar to the ones you have so 8183207 is also a Wisconsin ms64. I have 1 and you have 1 which makes 2 known and verified. Until 8183207 is seen in hand it just potentially exists.
So only three Wisconsins were initially certified with the doily tag, but one may have been cracked for potential upgrade, or has just not yet been entered into the census.
We know at least 3 were in a doily holder, but there could well be more from other submissions. Until we see them in hand like yours and mine we can't confirm they they still exist as doilies. If you check different cert numbers on either side of 8188721 you can figure that there was just the 1 Wisconsin in that submission just as there were probably just the 2 in the submission that produced your specimen.
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I didn't see this one on the list:
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@BAJJERFAN said:
@thefinn said:
@BAJJERFAN said:
@thefinn said:
I am hoping that this question has been answered previously. It looks like there are two types of Doilies - one with the green "gears", and one with the green gears with white "PCGS" lettering over the background in places. Are these two different varieties, or considered the same? It looks like the solid pattern (with earlier serial numbers) is scarcer than the ones with white PCGS overlays (later serial numbers).
Now that I look at more images, it looks like they all have the PCGS overlay, it just isn't as prominent on some images.There is a "retro" doily from a few years back that was granted to one submitter IIRC.> @thefinn said:
@BAJJERFAN said:
So we can ascertain that there were at least 3 Wisconsins, 2 of which can be verified. 8183207 [whereabouts unknown] was graded ms64.It may have been purchased before I saw them. I will ask the seller if he had more.
You can got to the cert number lookup utility and enter numbers similar to the ones you have so 8183207 is also a Wisconsin ms64. I have 1 and you have 1 which makes 2 known and verified. Until 8183207 is seen in hand it just potentially exists.
So only three Wisconsins were initially certified with the doily tag, but one may have been cracked for potential upgrade, or has just not yet been entered into the census.
We know at least 3 were in a doily holder, but there could well be more from other submissions. Until we see them in hand like yours and mine we can't confirm they they still exist as doilies. If you check different cert numbers on either side of 8188721 you can figure that there was just the 1 Wisconsin in that submission just as there were probably just the 2 in the submission that produced your specimen.
Thanks. It is a fun mystery. I did see there were two commems graded in the bunch - a second Wisc as you mentioned, and a Pilgriim. I will ask about them from the dealer.
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Added the 41-S Walker tonight - thanks.
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Just picked up another Doily commem to add to the census: 1936 Bridgeport, MS64 green CAC, SN 8187778.
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I found the missing Wisconsin, 8183207, along with a pic of the Bridgeport 8187778.
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I just found an 1880-S Morgan graded MS-61 PL in my teaching set. Cert#7119 61/3122149.
Edit: There must be several thousands of these waiting to come out of the collections of non-forum members.
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