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Anyone know of a planchet struck at us mint weighing 1.24 grams

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 19, 2017 6:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Silver 1.24 grams. 86.5% silver
Thanks in advance

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2017 10:52AM

    Diameter?

    For a silver planchet to weigh that little, it would have to be TINY.

  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭

    A half dime?

    Becky
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DorkGirl said:
    A half dime?

    Foreign coin sorry

  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭

    Netherlands East Indies 1/10 Gulden. Struck at Philadelphia in 1941 and 1945, San Francisco in 1941, 1942, and 1945. 1.25 Grams, 15mm.

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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    I have several half dimes in my reference collection that are at that weight (1.24 grams) or even less, but presumably not when struck; the reduced weight is due to circulation wear. The specified weight (mass) for United States half dimes was 1.35 grams for the Flowing Hair and Draped Bust designs, 1.34 grams for the Capped Bust and Liberty Seated half dimes, but was reduced to 1.24 grams for the 1853 - 1855 half dimes. Perhaps, as stated by Dorkgirl, what you have is a Liberty Seated half dime planchet?

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jackthecat1 said:
    Netherlands East Indies 1/10 Gulden. Struck at Philadelphia in 1941 and 1945, San Francisco in 1941, 1942, and 1945. 1.25 Grams, 15mm.

    Good ID!

  • Rich49Rich49 Posts: 191 ✭✭✭

    Can you post a picture?

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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:

    @Jackthecat1 said:
    Netherlands East Indies 1/10 Gulden. Struck at Philadelphia in 1941 and 1945, San Francisco in 1941, 1942, and 1945. 1.25 Grams, 15mm.

    Good ID!

    Forgot to say 86.5% silver

  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jackthecat1 said:
    Netherlands East Indies 1/10 Gulden. Struck at Philadelphia in 1941 and 1945, San Francisco in 1941, 1942, and 1945. 1.25 Grams, 15mm.

    Forgot to add 86.5% silver

  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭

    The NEI 1/10 G is .720. I will keep looking.

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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jackthecat1 said:
    The NEI 1/10 G is .720. I will keep looking.

    Would be around 1944 era

  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭

    The Venezuelan 1/4 Bolivar was struck at Philadelphia in 1944-46 among other years. 1.25g, 20mm, .835 fine. Very close to your specifications.

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The $1 gold piece is around 1.6g I believe and even that is tiny. 1.24 silver must be itty bitty.

    The more you VAM..
  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2017 8:08PM

    I have been through Altz & Berton's Foreign Coins Struck at United States Mints and the Standard Catalog of World Coins 1901-2000. Altz & Berton state that the Venezuelan 1/4 Bolivar was struck at Denver in 1944 while the Standard Catalog indicates they were struck at Philly. I have to think that your piece was struck at Denver on one of these planchets. If the fineness is off by a few percent, well, there was a war going on.

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  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2017 8:22PM

    @CascadeChris said:
    The $1 gold piece is around 1.6g I believe and even that is tiny. 1.24 silver must be itty bitty.

    I hope I said this correctly:

    You are trying to compare apples to oranges.

    A cubic inch of gold will weigh 10.13 Troy ounces.

    A cubic inch of silver will weigh 5.53 Troy ounces.

    If you had a disk of gold and a disk of silver and both were the same diameter and same thickness and same purity, the gold disk would be much heavier than the silver disk.

    If the thickness and the purity were the same, the diameter of the silver disc would have to be much larger than the gold disc in order for the weights to be the same.

    Just eyeballing gold and silver for comparison is likely to lead to erroneous conclusions.

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1904 Panama 2-1/2 Centesimos "Pill" is 1.25 grams of .900 Ag, struck at Philadelphia. Your reported .865 fineness is damn close to the standard for the above.

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    Diameter?

    For a silver planchet to weigh that little, it would have to be TINY.

    The 1904 Panama Pill is tiny !

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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3CS are 14mm, 0.80g (0.750) from 1851-1853 and .75g (0.900) from 1854-1873.

    Not relevant to OP's ? but to the discussion of small silver planchets upstream.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it was struck at a U.S. Mint, it is no longer a planchet. Perhaps you should change the thread title to "manufactured"?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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