Probably old words and phrases could be retreaded to modern use effectively even in numismatics. Look how great modern authors were able to use classical phrases like "For Whom the Bell Tolls"(Donne), "The Sound and the Fury"(Shakespeare) or "Tender is the Night"(Keats) as impressive titles.
Martin Luther Beistle debunked the long-used "suction" marks, "After careful study of the subject, the writer is of the opinion that so-called "suction" markings were caused by dies being forced together possibly in the set-up, without a planchet and the face of the softer of the two dies would thus receive the impression of the harder one."
Beistle's proposed terminology was doomed from the start "Akcidefect" (de effet le accidentel) most could not pronounce, let alone spell. "Clash" was a much better choice, it stuck, and had other cultural affirmation.
British terms for coining "Engraving on steel, is chiefly employed in cutting seals, punches, matrices, and dyes, proper for striking coins, medals, and counters" (Britannica third ed, 1789). Dyes became dies in America before the Mint, Scot's use of "Original Die" became master die. Scot used the old British "hubbe" Americanized it to "Hubb" which became "hub" by the early nineteenth century. Scot's "coining die" became working die, although coining die remains an industry tool code for multiple uses. The 1806/9 is not accurate, although "If 6 Was 9" portrayed counterculture, which is akin to Scot being the radical revolutionary that he was.
Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
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@Coinosaurus said:
Hairlines were called "hay marks" in old auction catalogs. Were the coins stored in hay?
This got me curious about the origin of "hairlines". What kind of hair causes hairlines? Is this due to the practice of brushing?
IIRC "hay marks" was coined by British numismatists. It wouldn't have been beyond Proskey to use it as a belittlement. Google it and refer to David Seaman's website. Once again, a merchandizing "term of art" used to differentiate and reassure potential buyers that, while distracting, they were NOT as detracting as PMD.
I've seen the term used in US catalogs mostly to describe die striations in the fields of D-mint WLH.
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Probably old words and phrases could be retreaded to modern use effectively even in numismatics. Look how great modern authors were able to use classical phrases like "For Whom the Bell Tolls"(Donne), "The Sound and the Fury"(Shakespeare) or "Tender is the Night"(Keats) as impressive titles.
"O polished perturbation, golden care,
That keep’st the ports of slumber open wide
To many a watchful night!" http://nfs.sparknotes.com/henry4pt2/page_473.html
Martin Luther Beistle debunked the long-used "suction" marks, "After careful study of the subject, the writer is of the opinion that so-called "suction" markings were caused by dies being forced together possibly in the set-up, without a planchet and the face of the softer of the two dies would thus receive the impression of the harder one."
Beistle's proposed terminology was doomed from the start "Akcidefect" (de effet le accidentel) most could not pronounce, let alone spell. "Clash" was a much better choice, it stuck, and had other cultural affirmation.
British terms for coining "Engraving on steel, is chiefly employed in cutting seals, punches, matrices, and dyes, proper for striking coins, medals, and counters" (Britannica third ed, 1789). Dyes became dies in America before the Mint, Scot's use of "Original Die" became master die. Scot used the old British "hubbe" Americanized it to "Hubb" which became "hub" by the early nineteenth century. Scot's "coining die" became working die, although coining die remains an industry tool code for multiple uses. The 1806/9 is not accurate, although "If 6 Was 9" portrayed counterculture, which is akin to Scot being the radical revolutionary that he was.
Ronyahski Actually both 'Booby' and 'Silly' Head were the imagination of Ebenezer Locke Mason of Boston in the 19th c.
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@CaptHenway is another "other" up to his ankles in the rugosity I'm throwing around this thread!
Bye for now as I'm getting an inferiority complex. I'm going to take a short Sunday drive in my car to get the fluids moving and prevent flat spots on the tires. Rats, too late - I just heard some thunder
May try anyway.
IIRC "hay marks" was coined by British numismatists. It wouldn't have been beyond Proskey to use it as a belittlement. Google it and refer to David Seaman's website. Once again, a merchandizing "term of art" used to differentiate and reassure potential buyers that, while distracting, they were NOT as detracting as PMD.
I've seen the term used in US catalogs mostly to describe die striations in the fields of D-mint WLH.
Breen was first to find a numismatic use for the word "coprolite."
Also the pleasant phrase "scared sh*tless" as applied to John J. Ford, Jr.
In another thread the term "stiff collar strike" is mentioned along with "Elliptical Strike Clip." Who invented these names?