lkeigwin: A 1797 draped bust half dollar in MS65+?
Please read about it. I discuss the history and importance of this coin. My guess is that most collectors do not know just how important a coin this 1797 half dollar is in the grand scheme of things. Also, TDN used to own this 1797 half, so it should be particularly meaningful to members of this forum.
So far, more than a half-dozen contributors to this thread, including myself, have thanked PRC for listing the content of his collecting, "sharing." Of course, it is great that he is revealing the contents of his set, and he deserves praise. His type set is amazing. Even so, I think it is more important to discuss specific coins and turn this into an educational thread. We can together help people learn about U.S. type coins and the history of coin collecting. It does not make sense to keep thanking him over and over again, or to keep saying "amazing" over and over again.
This is one of the most important items in all of American numismatics. It is clearly the finest known of the first type of quarter eagles. There is a good chance that I have seen all the 1796 'No Stars' quarter eagles that have been PCGS graded above 60.
This coin has 'made the news' in the past;
In 1995, Stack's auctioned Lelan Rogers' type coins, including the Rogers-Foxfire-Pogue 1797 half and the Rogers-Stellar PCGS-66+ 1794 dollar! This was an unbelievable auction. I wrote about it in a leading coin newsletter.
In 2005, ANR auctioned this same quarter eagle for $1.38 million. Again, I was there and I covered the event for Numismatic News newspaper. Not only was this an auction record for a quarter eagle, this amount was then more than a half eagle or a an eagle had ever brought at auction. At the moment, I can think of just one half eagle that has since realized as much at auction:
In 2010, Heritage auctioned the Madison type set, which included this same 1796 No Stars quarter eagle that PRC now owns. I covered that sale for CoinLink.com. JA was the top bidder, for $1.725 million!
Coins of this whole one-year design type are very rare, in all grades! This coin is substantially above any of the others, though admittedly I have never seen the piece that remains in the Harry Bass Foundation. Did PRC inspect it?
"In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
Please read about it. I discuss the history and importance of this coin. My guess is that most collectors do not know just how important a coin this 1797 half dollar is in the grand scheme of things. Also, TDN used to own this 1797 half, so it should be particularly meaningful to members of this forum.
--> Yes I bought it directly form TDN
Thanking PrivateRareCoinCollector
So far, more than a half-dozen contributors to this thread, including myself, have thanked PRC for listing the content of his collecting, "sharing." Of course, it is great that he is revealing the contents of his set, and he deserves praise. His type set is amazing. Even so, I think it is more important to discuss specific coins and turn this into an educational thread. We can together help people learn about U.S. type coins and the history of coin collecting. It does not make sense to keep thanking him over and over again, or to keep saying "amazing" over and over again.
This is one of the most important items in all of American numismatics. It is clearly the finest known of the first type of quarter eagles. There is a good chance that I have seen all the 1796 'No Stars' quarter eagles that have been PCGS graded above 60.
This coin has 'made the news' in the past;
In 1995, Stack's auctioned Lelan Rogers' type coins, including the Rogers-Foxfire-Pogue 1797 half and the Rogers-Stellar PCGS-66+ 1794 dollar! This was an unbelievable auction. I wrote about it in a leading coin newsletter.
In 2005, ANR auctioned this same quarter eagle for $1.38 million. Again, I was there and I covered the event for Numismatic News newspaper. Not only was this an auction record for a quarter eagle, this amount was then more than a half eagle or a an eagle had ever brought at auction. At the moment, I can think of just one half eagle that has since realized as much at auction:
In 2010, Heritage auctioned the Madison type set, which included this same 1796 No Stars quarter eagle that PRC now owns. I covered that sale for CoinLink.com. JA was the top bidder, for $1.725 million!
Coins of this whole one-year design type are very rare, in all grades! This coin is substantially above any of the others, though admittedly I have never seen the piece that remains in the Harry Bass Foundation. Did PRC inspect it?
--> This is one of the coins I had to overspend big time to get it. But same as the 1808 quarter eagle, there is just no other option than this one at the moment. Maybe this one and the Bass one.
The Bass one is still in the foundation and there is a chance the foundation might sell all coins after the loan is ended, that would be in 2019 / 2020. PCGS lists one coin as PCGS 64 estimated and I think thats the Bass one. So they might grade the Bass coin PCGS 64, maybe even better. I have not seen the coin in person, but I have seen the high resolution photos at their website, it looks beautiful and prooflike and for sure can be a 64, maybe even a 64+ or 65.
Your joy of collecting is clear in the superb quality and eye appeal of your set. A set such as your takes more than resources to assemble and reflects strongly your passion and drive to collect. Congratulations on your monumental accomplishment! My favorite coin is also the 1795 Eagle, when I had it in hand I was mesmerized by its beauty along with its as made originality. We do appreciate you took the time to post and share your set with everyone.
@privaterarecoincollector said:
This is one of the coins I had to overspend big time to get it. But same as the 1808 quarter eagle, there is just no other option than this one at the moment. Maybe this one and the Bass one.
The Bass one is still in the foundation and there is a chance the foundation might sell all coins after the loan is ended, that would be in 2019 / 2020. PCGS lists one coin as PCGS 64 estimated and I think thats the Bass one. So they might grade the Bass coin PCGS 64, maybe even better. I have not seen the coin in person, but I have seen the high resolution photos at their website, it looks beautiful and prooflike and for sure can be a 64, maybe even a 64+ or 65.
PCGS founder John Dannreuther is intimately familiar with both the entire Bass Sylloge and the Jimmy Hayes '08. In many discussions between him, myself, Dave Akers and Hon. Hayes, the Bass coin has never been mentioned as comparable.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@privaterarecoincollector said:
This is one of the coins I had to overspend big time to get it. But same as the 1808 quarter eagle, there is just no other option than this one at the moment. Maybe this one and the Bass one.
The Bass one is still in the foundation and there is a chance the foundation might sell all coins after the loan is ended, that would be in 2019 / 2020. PCGS lists one coin as PCGS 64 estimated and I think thats the Bass one. So they might grade the Bass coin PCGS 64, maybe even better. I have not seen the coin in person, but I have seen the high resolution photos at their website, it looks beautiful and prooflike and for sure can be a 64, maybe even a 64+ or 65.
PCGS founder John Dannreuther is intimately familiar with both the entire Bass Sylloge and the Jimmy Hayes '08. In many discussions between him, myself, Dave Akers and Hon. Hayes, the Bass coin has never been mentioned as comparable.
@GoBust said:
Your joy of collecting is clear in the superb quality and eye appeal of your set. A set such as your takes more than resources to assemble and reflects strongly your passion and drive to collect. Congratulations on your monumental accomplishment! My favorite coin is also the 1795 Eagle, when I had it in hand I was mesmerized by its beauty along with its as made originality. We do appreciate you took the time to post and share your set with everyone.
right ??!! Its so different to any other 1795 eagle, very special coin !
OK, privaterarecoincollector, I have to ask. What in the world do you do for a living to be able to afford all this glorious metal eye candy??
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
@privaterarecoincollector said:
I didnt, I bought what came up for sale and was nice and this decided the date.
Did CAC play any role in the coins you decided to purchase?
It didnt play a role for choosing the coins but it played a role for how much I was willing to pay.
I guess that over time I got the impression while a coin can be a PCGS 65+, a PCGS 65 coin no CAC is a PCGS 65- coin.
@privaterarecoincollector said:
I didnt, I bought what came up for sale and was nice and this decided the date.
Did CAC play any role in the coins you decided to purchase?
It didnt play a role for choosing the coins but it played a role for how much I was willing to pay.
I guess that over time I got the impression while a coin can be a PCGS 65+, a PCGS 65 coin no CAC is a PCGS 65- coin.
A pcgs ms65+ is no guarantee of a sticker either. Keep that in mind that while a coin could technically be ms65+ or even ms66 there is no guarantee that CAC would sticker it even if it was graded ms64
@Gazes said:
Privaterarecoin collector----do you plan on upgrading your #1 set here and there or have you moved on to other challenges?
Yes I want to make some money first, hopefully this year, and then start upgrading a bit, hopefully this year too. I already have a few upgrades that I didnt post yet.
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lkeigwin:
Please read about it. I discuss the history and importance of this coin. My guess is that most collectors do not know just how important a coin this 1797 half dollar is in the grand scheme of things. Also, TDN used to own this 1797 half, so it should be particularly meaningful to members of this forum.
The Norweb 1797 Half Dollar
The Finest 1796 –97 Draped Bust Half Dollars
Thanking PrivateRareCoinCollector
So far, more than a half-dozen contributors to this thread, including myself, have thanked PRC for listing the content of his collecting, "sharing." Of course, it is great that he is revealing the contents of his set, and he deserves praise. His type set is amazing. Even so, I think it is more important to discuss specific coins and turn this into an educational thread. We can together help people learn about U.S. type coins and the history of coin collecting. It does not make sense to keep thanking him over and over again, or to keep saying "amazing" over and over again.
Parmelee-Rogers-Madison-PRC 1796 'No Stars' Quarter Eagle
This is one of the most important items in all of American numismatics. It is clearly the finest known of the first type of quarter eagles. There is a good chance that I have seen all the 1796 'No Stars' quarter eagles that have been PCGS graded above 60.
This coin has 'made the news' in the past;
In 1995, Stack's auctioned Lelan Rogers' type coins, including the Rogers-Foxfire-Pogue 1797 half and the Rogers-Stellar PCGS-66+ 1794 dollar! This was an unbelievable auction. I wrote about it in a leading coin newsletter.
In 2005, ANR auctioned this same quarter eagle for $1.38 million. Again, I was there and I covered the event for Numismatic News newspaper. Not only was this an auction record for a quarter eagle, this amount was then more than a half eagle or a an eagle had ever brought at auction. At the moment, I can think of just one half eagle that has since realized as much at auction:
$1.38 Million Auction Record for a $5 gold coin in the January 2012 FUN Platinum Night
In 2010, Heritage auctioned the Madison type set, which included this same 1796 No Stars quarter eagle that PRC now owns. I covered that sale for CoinLink.com. JA was the top bidder, for $1.725 million!
Coins of this whole one-year design type are very rare, in all grades! This coin is substantially above any of the others, though admittedly I have never seen the piece that remains in the Harry Bass Foundation. Did PRC inspect it?
--> Yes I bought it directly form TDN
--> great
--> This is one of the coins I had to overspend big time to get it. But same as the 1808 quarter eagle, there is just no other option than this one at the moment. Maybe this one and the Bass one.
The Bass one is still in the foundation and there is a chance the foundation might sell all coins after the loan is ended, that would be in 2019 / 2020. PCGS lists one coin as PCGS 64 estimated and I think thats the Bass one. So they might grade the Bass coin PCGS 64, maybe even better. I have not seen the coin in person, but I have seen the high resolution photos at their website, it looks beautiful and prooflike and for sure can be a 64, maybe even a 64+ or 65.
Just got back from vacation and saw this thread - WOW WOW & WOW- truly amazing set and congrats to you on completing such a fabulous type set.
IMO a ...type set.... has more interest than any super duper accumulation of one denomination no matter what the grades.
I just mentioned this set to our local coin club on Tuesday night and emailed the link out to the members.
I figured it was worth a bump for any who may have missed it the first time.
It has been a little while since I commented (page one).....................I don't know what else to say!
Well played!
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Your joy of collecting is clear in the superb quality and eye appeal of your set. A set such as your takes more than resources to assemble and reflects strongly your passion and drive to collect. Congratulations on your monumental accomplishment! My favorite coin is also the 1795 Eagle, when I had it in hand I was mesmerized by its beauty along with its as made originality. We do appreciate you took the time to post and share your set with everyone.
I'm too much of a newb to understand what I'm looking at.
Is this a set of one of every coin the US has ever minted?
way cool and congrats
PCGS founder John Dannreuther is intimately familiar with both the entire Bass Sylloge and the Jimmy Hayes '08. In many discussions between him, myself, Dave Akers and Hon. Hayes, the Bass coin has never been mentioned as comparable.
really happy to hear that
right ??!! Its so different to any other 1795 eagle, very special coin !
WOW
OK, privaterarecoincollector, I have to ask. What in the world do you do for a living to be able to afford all this glorious metal eye candy??
Im a private investor and made a few lucky investments.
I just picked it out of the trash and spent half of it. Kept some interesting varieties you evidently missed
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Privaterarecoincollector----how did you decide on the date for each type in your collection?
I didnt, I bought what came up for sale and was nice and this decided the date.
Thank you for sharing your unbelievable collection.
Thanks for the response and however you chose absolutley worked!
What an outstanding collection!!
Every coin in your collection just makes my head spin. But that 1807 cent is especially incredible.
yes the 1807 cent is really really really red
Did CAC play any role in the coins you decided to purchase?
It didnt play a role for choosing the coins but it played a role for how much I was willing to pay.
I guess that over time I got the impression while a coin can be a PCGS 65+, a PCGS 65 coin no CAC is a PCGS 65- coin.
A pcgs ms65+ is no guarantee of a sticker either. Keep that in mind that while a coin could technically be ms65+ or even ms66 there is no guarantee that CAC would sticker it even if it was graded ms64
Privaterarecoin collector----do you plan on upgrading your #1 set here and there or have you moved on to other challenges?
Glad this thread was reopened, hadn't looked at this set previously. What a pleasure!
Yes I want to make some money first, hopefully this year, and then start upgrading a bit, hopefully this year too. I already have a few upgrades that I didnt post yet.
Its hard to upgrade anyways, so if there are, they will be meaningful
The gold is amazing. I enjoy the comments. Please add more.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
ok !
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A simply breathtaking set!
Far East Eagle