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  • privaterarecoincollector
    privaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @earlyAurum said:
    Amazing set. I collect early quarter eagles and you have what could be easily argued as the best of the each type. I would have liked the 1821 quarter eagle out of the Pogue collection. Simply amazing. Truly inspiring. Thanks for sharing.

    I love the 1821 quarter eagle, such a beautiful coin !

  • privaterarecoincollector
    privaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JRocco said:
    Just amazing.
    Words can hardly describe that set.

    I would put your 1795 $10 Small Eagle as one of the most beautiful coins imaginable.
    The reverse with it's luster just sings to you.

    actually its my favorite coin of the whole set !
    I checked and saw all other 1795 Eagles including the Banks Eagle at the British Museum in London that was said to be the second finest known after this. This coin ended up being cleaned no grade, same like the Banks 1794 Dollar at the British Museum collection, that was MS 66 cleaned no grade (what a pitty).
    It seems to be really by quite a distance to be the finest known.

  • AmazonX
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    Wow. Amazing coins. Quick, someone get me my fainting couch.

  • privaterarecoincollector
    privaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @totally said:
    Just trying to make a type set with any low grade coin is hard enough for some of these rarities... but my god this set is incredible.

    I understand how hard it is, I was looking for Type coins for 20 years. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity to build a set like this that opened up in the last few years and I am grateful that I could be there.

  • AuroraBorealis
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    Awesome set ! Congratulations! AB

  • hchcoin
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    Love the bust quarters.

  • coinhack
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    Shouldn't the title be: THE Type set

    Amazing set.

  • privaterarecoincollector
    privaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coinhack said:
    Shouldn't the title be: THE Type set

    Amazing set.

    ok I will consider !

  • SkyMan
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    Wowsers!!! Congratulations!!!

  • Peace_dollar88
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    Holy smokes!!! And to think I felt accomplished when I finished my franklin dansco!!!!! Awesome coins!

  • Nap
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    Wow. Thank you so much for sharing. Truly a fantastic way to appreciate the many designs in American coins.

    Appreciate the provenances as well. Some of these coins have been centerpieces in some of the most famous collections of numismatic yore.

  • Gazes
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    Privaterarecoin collector----So after putting this together for decades, what advise do you have to collectors ? I know some will chime in about having money but I am looking beyond that because to put together a collection like this involves much more than just money.

  • sparky64
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    A remarkable achievement.
    Thanks for sharing it here and sincere congratulations.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • tradedollarnut
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    @jcping said:
    These sets should go straight into HOF :wink:

    I tend to agree and with a little bit of housekeeping he can assure that happens. He needs 41 weighted points to surpass High Desert's HofF set rating. The coins are out there ... I see some extremely common examples that could go up one or even two points rather easily. A half a point here or there on some higher weighted coins would add up rather quickly as well.

    This definitely could be accomplished by the end of June - and then he could be 'done'.

  • DoubleEagle59
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    Absolutely fantastic!!

    What would be so impressive to see, is all of these beauties cracked out and put in a Dansco (lol).

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • privaterarecoincollector
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    @Gazes said:
    Privaterarecoin collector----So after putting this together for decades, what advise do you have to collectors ? I know some will chime in about having money but I am looking beyond that because to put together a collection like this involves much more than just money.

    Hi Gazes,

    I would say:

    (1) have believe
    have believe that the coins you want might come up for sale at some point of time. Truth is that they will !

    (2) have guts
    have guts to buy them when they come up. Have guts to pay for most of them more than everybody else thinks what they are worth, even if you think you will be loosing money.

    (3) have money
    have money when they come up. And also have money when a lot of them come up at the same time. It can be hard !

  • privaterarecoincollector
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    @tradedollarnut said:

    @jcping said:
    These sets should go straight into HOF :wink:

    I tend to agree and with a little bit of housekeeping he can assure that happens. He needs 41 weighted points to surpass High Desert's HofF set rating. The coins are out there ... I see some extremely common examples that could go up one or even two points rather easily. A half a point here or there on some higher weighted coins would add up rather quickly as well.

    This definitely could be accomplished by the end of June - and then he could be 'done'.

    I also think it can be done. I didnt go for proof coins yet and am trying to do everything strictly with Mint State coins other than the ones that dont exist in Mint State.
    But if any of you have an upgrade for me, please offer it to me !!

  • Kudbegud
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    Congratulations on completing a difficult, long pursuit. Beautiful


  • DCW
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    An absolutely stunning set! What a treat to be able to view these coins. Thank you for allowing us to peer into your collection.

    I think the advice you gave is spot on, especially the part of having the money when special coins come up. Like all of life, it is extremely important to be prepared for major sales and acquisitions when the opportunity presents itself.

    Timing is everything. If one can avoid making a bunch of "smaller" purchases or assembling a large collection of "widgets," saving the money to put towards what one really wants, they can be in a better position to reach for that once in a lifetime coin or coins.
    And it's not just type coins, obviously.
    Sometimes you only get one shot at a token, medal, or rare variety that is unique or shows up in auction every hundred years.

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  • HighDesert
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    Wow! Congrats! It’s been fun watching you put this together. The drive and determination to root out the best and get them all together. It’s WAY more involved than just money, as we all know.

    HOF? Got my vote!

  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    After looking at your set I found myself on the floor not knowing how I got there then I remembered. Yes, I was looking at this AMAZING type set your showing. Holy crap!! I am very impressed with your collection, I can't even tell you.
    VERY impressive my coin brother!
    WOW!!

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • Washingtoniana
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    Every coin in this collection is special somehow. Your love of numismatics shows in your collection. Thanks for showing us your coins.

    If you don't mind sharing, I'm curious how friendly are you with the other coin collectors who collect at your price level? Have you ever met up with your collecting buddies to swap gem flowing hair dimes? Do you know what each other wants? Do you ever think about selling your coins to one of your friendly competitors?

  • Analyst
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    CNN: Congrats on the Liberty Cap Cent. It was one of my favorite coins from the Stellar Collection. He knows it went from one good home to another!

    I tentatively figure that CNN is talking about the 1793 that grabbed my attention right away when I viewed a registry set listing in the top post. This large cent may be the only pre-1840 coin in this set that I have not personally inspected. I would very much like to see it. For years, I have been intrigued by 1793 Liberty Cap cents.

    On the whole, there are many coins in this set that I have written about. In several instances, I devoted entire articles to single coins that are now in this type set! Hopefully, many people appreciate this set to a greater extent by reading commentary about the respective coins, rather than just reading a list.

    The Norweb 1797 half is the second finest known of its design type, IMO. I have always been very fond of it. For a while in 2010 and 2011, TDN owned it.

    The Norweb 1797 Half Dollar

    The Finest 1796 –97 Draped Bust Half Dollars

    The 1807/6 cent is just unbelievable. I had wondered about who bought it in 2015. Now, I am delighted to know the answer.

    Is the Naftzger-Blay 1807/6 the only Gem Quality & Full Red ‘Early Date’ Large Cent?

    JoeBB: ... I would say that sharing the set is more important [than being #1] for the spread and enjoyment of numismatics. I thank you tremendously for this ...

    Yes, I had thoughts along similar lines.

    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
  • Nysoto
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    An amazing display of history of the best surviving coins from the US Mint.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • Nic
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  • JJSingleton
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    Yowzer! So much fun to look at, Congrats on a couple of fine sets.

    Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia

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  • cnncoins
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    Analyst,
    I purchased this coin 18-20 years ago after being offered it privately via another major dealer where it went into the Stellar Collection. It was pedigreed to the Garrett Collection. It is a fabulous coin with wonderful eye appeal and it has traces of original mint red. Privaterarecoincollector will enjoy this coin along side his many "monster" coins!

  • TopographicOceans
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    Outstanding job

  • caddyshack
    caddyshack Posts: 115 ✭✭
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    brilliant: (2) have guts
    have guts to buy them when they come up. Have guts to pay for most of them more than everybody else thinks what they are worth, even if you think you will be loosing money.

    most famous example: Duckor buying the 1920S $10 for an absurd $75,000.00 in the late 70's. Simpson paid $1,700,000.00 a few years ago. The market for the very best will always be there.

    The Type set can never be reproduced! PCGS has to display it!

  • tradedollarnut
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    I will travel to see it...

  • JOsborne
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    Knocked my socks off. You're the man.

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  • breakdown
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    Great set and appreciate your sharing (but agree that High Desert may have good reasons for not making specific coins public).
    By the way, the 1874 Seated Half was one that I was made aware of when I was building my set, and then told that it was no longer available and going into a big-time type set. Guess I know now where. Love the reeded edge halves.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • HandH
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    @golden said:
    Wow!

    Amen. Well said. Well done.

    US Civil War coinage
    Historical Medals

  • Ablinky
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    @tradedollarnut said:

    @FadeToBlack said:
    Incredible stuff all over the place in there.

    Hope you knock High Desert off, very selfish of that particular collector to not share images at the least.

    There are reasons - no need to insult. Let's appreciate those that do share and not begrudge those that don't.

    I agree, and it's not entirely true that the High Desert set has no images/displays its contents. I remember when I attended my first summer ANA show in 2011 when it was in Chicago for the first time and the whole High Desert Type Set was on display. I can remember nearly drooling on the 1908 $10 in MS-68+.

    Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage

  • northcoin
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    Added thanks for sharing. What a great accomplishment.

  • privaterarecoincollector
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    @HighDesert said:
    Wow! Congrats! It’s been fun watching you put this together. The drive and determination to root out the best and get them all together. It’s WAY more involved than just money, as we all know.

    HOF? Got my vote!

    thanks ! :smile:

  • oilers99
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    Thanks for sharing your amazing collection!

  • SmEagle1795
    SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What a fantastic, consistent set; an incredible accomplishment! Congratulations and thank you for sharing!

    Learn about our world's shared history told through the first millennium of coinage: Colosseo Collection
  • asheland
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  • SanctionII
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    Simply breathtaking.

    Props and kudos to you for assembling your Type Set. It must have been a deeply satisfying project.

    Thank you also for allowing your set to be viewed by others.

  • Analyst
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    CNN: Analyst, I purchased this coin 18-20 years ago after being offered it privately via another major dealer where it went into the Stellar Collection. It was pedigreed to the Garrett Collection. It is a fabulous coin with wonderful eye appeal and it has traces of original mint red. Privaterarecoincollector will enjoy this coin along side his many "monster" coins!

    Thanks, CNN, I am recollecting now. Unfortunately, the Garrett sales were before my time. Was this PCGS graded MS-62 1793 Liberty Cap part of the Naftzger-Streiner-Parrino deal? If so, I did see it. The picture in the PCGS registry is a little more red than my vision of the coin that I saw during the early 1990s, which may be the same coin. Lighting and camera angles can be factors.

    PrivateRareCoinCollector: I checked and saw all other 1795 Eagles including the Banks Eagle at the British Museum in London that was said to be the second finest known after this. This coin ended up being cleaned no grade, same like the Banks 1794 Dollar at the British Museum collection, that was MS 66 cleaned no grade (what a pity). It seems to be really [be] quite a distance [from] the finest known.

    Though sad, this is helpful. I appreciate the input. There was never any question, however, that the Garrett-Pogue-PRC 1795 Eagle is the finest known. High grade 1795 Eagles are rarer than most collectors realize. Even a couple certified MS-64 coins have problems. Does anyone here know what happened to the Gold Rush Gallery Collection, PCGS-64 'Old Green Label' 1795 that HA sold on 01/12/05 in Fort Lauderdale?

    As for PRC's 1795 Flowing Hair dollar, this is an amazing coin. It was overshadowed by the Oswald-Hayes-Pogue 1794 in Sept. 2015. In most coin auctions, it would have been the star of the show, if offered. As 1794 dollars serve different purposes, the Bullowa-PRC 1795 is the ideal Flowing Hair dollar for a type set!

    The Marvelous Pogue Family Collection, part 8: The Finest 1795 Flowing Hair Silver Dollars

    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
  • DIMEMAN
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    OMG!! What a great collection of all the U.S. coins. It's good to see you replace High Desert...who never showed his coins. I agree with Joebb21 the HD set was never relevant to me either.

  • privaterarecoincollector
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    @tradedollarnut said:

    @jcping said:
    These sets should go straight into HOF :wink:

    I tend to agree and with a little bit of housekeeping he can assure that happens. He needs 41 weighted points to surpass High Desert's HofF set rating. The coins are out there ... I see some extremely common examples that could go up one or even two points rather easily. A half a point here or there on some higher weighted coins would add up rather quickly as well.

    This definitely could be accomplished by the end of June - and then he could be 'done'.

    It is done, Im number 1. The margin is still small but will be larger by the end of this week.

    https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/complete-u-s-type-set-1792-1964/144

  • ModCrewman
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    Truly astounding. I am speechless. If the US Mint had kept it's own type set, IMHO it's unlikely that it would be able to compete with your set.

    Comments uttered to myself during viewing:

    1. Oh My.
    2. No way.
    3. Unreal.
    4. Dang.
    5. Incredible coin.
    6. Flawless.

    And finally, "Thank you."

  • lkeigwin
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    Astonishing! Truly amazing. Honestly, I'm at a loss for words.

    So many exceptional coins. A 1797 draped bust half dollar in MS65+? A chain cent periods in MS66? Simply remarkable!

    Well done, sir!
    Lance.

  • topstuf
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    @privaterarecoincollector said:

    @gonzer said:
    I just threw my type set in the trash.

    LOL

    Where is this trash? I'll take it to the dump for you. :)

  • privaterarecoincollector
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    @tradedollarnut said:

    @FadeToBlack said:
    Incredible stuff all over the place in there.

    Hope you knock High Desert off, very selfish of that particular collector to not share images at the least.

    There are reasons - no need to insult. Let's appreciate those that do share and not begrudge those that don't.

    @Washingtoniana said:
    Every coin in this collection is special somehow. Your love of numismatics shows in your collection. Thanks for showing us your coins.

    If you don't mind sharing, I'm curious how friendly are you with the other coin collectors who collect at your price level? Have you ever met up with your collecting buddies to swap gem flowing hair dimes? Do you know what each other wants? Do you ever think about selling your coins to one of your friendly competitors?

    I would not want to sell my coins to anybody :)

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