Amazing toning on a state quarter....

TonerGuy · April 17, 2017 8:35AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-S-GREAT-SAND-DUNES-NATIONAL-PARK-SILVER-QUARTER-PCGS-PR69DCAM-RAINBOW-/162477942542?hash=item25d470a70e:g:qhQAAOSw5UZY9GPy

Its amazing that toning this beautiful developed naturally on a state quarter barely 2 yrs old... I mean what are the chances ?

And what bargain price... lol

ctf_error_coins · April 17, 2017 8:38AM

I love the smell of sulfur in the morning ......

abcde12345 · April 17, 2017 8:45AM

That is so beautiful. I didn't know that quarter is so rare. Seems slightly overpriced but I don't know that series of coins too well so probably in the ballpark, so to speak i guess.

topstuf · April 17, 2017 8:51AM

Boy, I'd sure rather have that than some silly old classic type coin for the same price.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE DEVIL SMILEY? He posts all smiley.

Coinstartled · April 17, 2017 9:03AM

Must be the silica in the sand dunes.

Zoins · April 17, 2017 9:53AM

That's quite a toning premium offered at $1,475.00 on a PCGS Price Guide price of $17.

PRECIOUSMENTAL · April 17, 2017 10:00AM

This coin truly represents America the Beautiful. Unreal rainbow color on both sides; quite fitting for such a spectacular place! We've been there multiple times, and hiked to the top of the dunes, and refreshed ourselves in Medano Creek, as shown in the coin's design (which usually stops running by mid-May; it's created by snowmelt). The color of this coin truly comes close to matching the otherworldly beauty of the place it portrays.
WOWZERS!

Jimnight · April 17, 2017 10:14AM

That't really nice

TonerGuy · April 17, 2017 4:21PM

No one's bothered by this....hmmm.

roadrunner · April 17, 2017 4:39PM

So where did this coin "live" for 2 years to acquire the same toning that most other coins need a few decades or more to get there. It's not from the Newman collection or from inside a bag of Morgan dollars.

BIGAL2749 · April 17, 2017 4:50PM

All I can say is Unbelievable colors.

Wish I Knew how to get one like that

roadrunner · April 17, 2017 4:56PM

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
I'd really like for all my coins to tone like that except that one took THREE WHOLE YEARS which seems like a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time to wait for natural toning. ;-)

No coin can tone that fast in 2-3 years and achieve those colors unless it is subjected to a high chemical environment like an album, sulfur envelope, wrapped in tissue paper, etc. You can get some neat colors in just a year wrapped in colored tissue paper....but they will look more AT than NT. I did that test (wrapped in yellow tissue paper) on a blazing near gem MS64 rattler 1890 seated quarter back in 1988. And it toned some shocking purples, blues, golds in just a year. And then was rejected by NGC as AT. A couple years ago I spotted the same coin in a Top Tier MS65 holder.

Coppercolor · April 17, 2017 5:50PM

cough cough

edynamicmarketing?

bolivarshagnasty · April 17, 2017 5:50PM

What's more amazing is our host put that doctored crap in a straight holder.

cameonut2011 · April 17, 2017 5:56PM

@TonerGuy said:
No one's bothered by this....hmmm.

I'm very bothered by this type of thing, but I try not to think about it anymore given that much of a coin's value nowadays is dependent on the plastic. As you can see, the experts have let some sketchy coins into problem-free holders during the last several years. This is the type of stuff that causes loss of faith in the grading services and market instability.

abcde12345 · April 17, 2017 5:59PM

@bolivarshagnasty said:
What's more amazing is our host put that doctored crap in a straight holder.

Offensive comment. Please delete. (Not going to FLAG you as I don't believe in FLAGGING, but your comment borders on not just rude but downright insulting.)

Hydrant · April 17, 2017 9:04PM

Abcde12345, there was a time, in the not too distant past, when you monitored my posts like a snarky 8th grade girl. I never gave your comments about me a second thought. Bolivar probably won't either. Give it a rest. BORING.

Boosibri · April 17, 2017 9:09PM

The sand dunes in Michigan are greater

abcde12345 · April 17, 2017 9:34PM

@Hydrant said:
Abcde12345, there was a time, in the not too distant past, when you monitored my posts like a snarky 8th grade girl. I never gave your comments about me a second thought. Bolivar probably won't either. Give it a rest. BORING.

Don't flatter yourself. You are NOT your avatar.

Martin · April 17, 2017 9:38PM

Gassed after grading? I would think if it looked like that at the time of grading there would be a trueview

AUandAG · April 17, 2017 9:39PM

endynamicmarketing was my first thought as well.

bob:)

TonerGuy · April 17, 2017 10:27PM

@Martin said:
Gassed after grading? I would think if it looked like that at the time of grading there would be a trueview

Nope. How does the color get under the plastic prong then ? That coin straight graded.

ricko · April 18, 2017 4:11AM

That is a nicely done example of classic coin doctoring.... It can be done rather quickly by modern techniques. And NO! I will not share the methodology.... My experiments are the main reason I laugh at the premiums paid for colorful tarnish... High rate of return for minimal effort. There are a lot of coins with assisted - or accelerated - tarnish on the market...both slabbed and raw. Cheers, RickO

fcloud · April 18, 2017 5:04AM

While at a show in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago there were two dealers with about two to three dozen modern coins with the same tone. I thought it odd at the time to see so many with the same tones.

JJSingleton · April 18, 2017 5:28AM

I'm speechless.

For some reason I think our hosts probably want that one back.

roadrunner · April 18, 2017 5:53AM

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
You may fancy the notion that you're the sole guardian of the secret numbers and formulae!

Please note no AT flag exists on this slab.

I've cracked out graded choice/gem seated coins over the years that weren't flagged for AT the previous time through. Yet on my submission, they were bagged. One grading event is simply an opinion at one point in time. And they often can change. If you really want to know how "good" the toning on that State Quarter is, submit it several times raw to both PCGS and NGC. If it comes back NT every time....she's good to go. Though in 5-10 years from now, there's no way to know if that toning will still be perceived the same way.

zippcity · April 18, 2017 6:22AM

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:

@BIGAL2749 said:
All I can say is Unbelievable colors.

Wish I Knew how to get one like that

Should I start a new post to discuss this topic fully or would this thread actually be the de facto appropriate "place"?

So, what are the various means to 'assist' and 'nurture' such an obviously precocious coin into blossoming earlier than a prodigy 9 year old that is fluent in no less than 17 languages (6 of them ancient with 2 written in hieroglyphics etc) having say an MD-PhD from John Hopkins, JD from Harvard, a few STEM PhDs from MIT including astrophysics etc......?

It is possible the new technology employed by the mint is allowing the best and brightest to rise to the top much more rapidly than ever before? Common Core Curriculum and all that jazz?

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:

@BIGAL2749 said:
All I can say is Unbelievable colors.

Wish I Knew how to get one like that

Should I start a new post to discuss this topic fully or would this thread actually be the de facto appropriate "place"?

So, what are the various means to 'assist' and 'nurture' such an obviously precocious coin into blossoming earlier than a prodigy 9 year old that is fluent in no less than 17 languages (6 of them ancient with 2 written in hieroglyphics etc) having say an MD-PhD from John Hopkins, JD from Harvard, a few STEM PhDs from MIT including astrophysics etc......?

It is possible the new technology employed by the mint is allowing the best and brightest to rise to the top much more rapidly than ever before? Common Core Curriculum and all that jazz?

you could start with this one fresh from the mint, ebay item#112367190679, how long before it sits in plastic as legit?

TonerGuy · April 18, 2017 8:57AM

@fcloud said:
While at a show in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago there were two dealers with about two to three dozen modern coins with the same tone. I thought it odd at the time to see so many with the same tones.

Raw or slabbed ?

fcloud · April 18, 2017 9:05AM

@TonerGuy said:

@fcloud said:
While at a show in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago there were two dealers with about two to three dozen modern coins with the same tone. I thought it odd at the time to see so many with the same tones.

Raw or slabbed ?

All in PCGS slabs.

roadrunner · April 18, 2017 9:11AM

This prospector has all the colors in the right places.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-oz-Silver-Round-Provident-Prospector-ERROR-COIN-FROM-MINT-RARE-Art-Toned-/322477833755?hash=item4b152d3e1b:g:83UAAOSwuLZY6ZrN

I'm still amazed that Washington's head on the OP's coin is the only place the "blue" toning shows up. Blue cam?

TwoKopeiki · April 18, 2017 9:11AM

Accelerated toning, but seems to be ok with the sniffer (no trace elements left on the surface). Easy to do by storing in high sulfur content environment and neutralizing the surfaces before submitting. The toned market is crazy and the more premium collectors pay for colorful moderns, the more of these we'll see.

garrynot · April 18, 2017 9:16AM

I was at a local coin show and a guy had a row of raw state quarters toned like this. Not priced like this of course. I - we could all buy a nice coin with $1,475. Just sayin.

TonerGuy · April 18, 2017 9:39PM

@fcloud said:

@TonerGuy said:

@fcloud said:
While at a show in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago there were two dealers with about two to three dozen modern coins with the same tone. I thought it odd at the time to see so many with the same tones.

Raw or slabbed ?

All in PCGS slabs.

Unfortunately, I am not surprised.

@TwoKopeiki said:
Accelerated toning, but seems to be ok with the sniffer (no trace elements left on the surface). Easy to do by storing in high sulfur content environment and neutralizing the surfaces before submitting. The toned market is crazy and the more premium collectors pay for colorful moderns, the more of these we'll see.

Thats not a Secure holder. I dont think PCGS uses the sniffer with regular submissions. That was straight graded by 3 graders and a finalizer.

joeykoins · April 19, 2017 11:27AM

I'll sell you mine for only $50! LOL

The thing is, I found the coin in the wild, as is.

coindeuce · April 19, 2017 2:11PM

I'm happy to see that it is silver, not clad. Then I'd be really suspicious.

DollarAfterDollar · April 19, 2017 4:31PM

How can PCGS straight grade that garbage but then say my toned Indian Cents are Questionable? This is the kinda thing that makes you wonder WTF?

Bochiman · April 19, 2017 11:37PM

@DollarAfterDollar said:
How can PCGS straight grade that garbage but then say my toned Indian Cents are Questionable? This is the kinda thing that makes you wonder WTF?

You should ask them.
Here, or if you go to any large shows, particularly where they have a luncheon, you may have an opportunity to ask in person

Amazing toning on a state quarter....

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