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It is a good time to write the "Unwritten" rules of Numismatics.

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    TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @DancingFire said:
    Never to buy from a dealer wearing a suit and tie.

    Why? It is a business after all.

    There are many high end professional businesses where wearing a suit is a dead give away that you are a newbie.

    Or respectful of tradition

    My attorneys/business partners refused to wear suits for the past decades.

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    YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2017 3:04PM

    @TurboSnail said:

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @DancingFire said:
    Never to buy from a dealer wearing a suit and tie.

    Why? It is a business after all.

    There are many high end professional businesses where wearing a suit is a dead give away that you are a newbie.

    Or respectful of tradition

    My attorneys/business partners refused to wear suits for the past decades.

    So?
    That statement does not contradict mine.
    Also, I think it best we stop here as we have gotten way off topic.

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TurboSnail said:

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @DancingFire said:
    Never to buy from a dealer wearing a suit and tie.

    Why? It is a business after all.

    There are many high end professional businesses where wearing a suit is a dead give away that you are a newbie.

    Or respectful of tradition

    My attorneys/business partners refused to wear suits for the past decades.

    My attorney is always boasting of a new suit.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,983 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never,ever disparage another's collection,no matter how humble that collection may be.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

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    DancingFireDancingFire Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2017 8:03PM

    @TurboSnail said:

    My attorneys/business partners refused to wear suits for the past decades.

    He now charge less $$$ per hr? .. :D

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yorkshireman said:

    @DancingFire said:
    Never to buy from a dealer wearing a suit and tie.

    Why? It is a business after all.

    If a dealer thinks you are well off, he or she may charge you more. I know of a few instances where dealer(s) knew of a certain large fish on the floor and increased their price to more than 2x the original price. It happens.

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    TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DancingFire said:

    @TurboSnail said:

    My attorneys/business partners refused to wear suits for the past decades.

    He now charge less $$$ per hr? .. :D

    Well, my ex-partner, traffic defense lawyer has a little office within DMV and is making around 10k a day. He doesn't need to wear suit. My female friend, business partner/investor/ all purpose lawyer is a she. And my criminal defense lawyer, he became a district attorney and still refuse to wear suit.

    They were making money off me all these years. And I can't sell a single suit to them. (yes I sell suits.)

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    If you are a Dealer and list a coin as $XXX OR BEST OFFER, you are stating that the price is negotiable. Knocking $15 off an $1100 coin is not being negotiable and you are an idiot.

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    ElmhurstElmhurst Posts: 783 ✭✭✭

    Avoid dealers who are former attorneys or stock brokers.

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    Always ask what is your best price. Then say yes or no, thanks.

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Andrew99 said:
    Always ask what is your best price. Then say yes or no, thanks.

    Well said, Andrew!

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Andrew99 said:
    Always ask what is your best price. Then say yes or no, thanks.

    That's what I usually do---I ask for their best price and then I either play or pass. I don't have time to play games with dealers.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buying, then selling a coin is like hitting into an unassisted triple play:

    1) The grade is now lower
    2) The overall market is down, so all prices are off 50%
    3) That series is now out of favor, knock off another 30%

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Used to have jerks who would ask "What's your best price?" And INVARIABLY then counter lower. I would say something like "Are you calling me a liar when I said that was my best price?" And move on to the non-wanking customers.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    StoogeStooge Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When you go to sell a coin at a show, your coin isn't the best they've seen and they have 10 more like it and will only buy it to keep inventory, so that's why you get a rock bottom price.
    When you go to buy the same coin, it's by far the nicest one they have in stock, and you won't see another like it for a long time. The bloated price being asked is their absolute rock bottom price they can sell it for, even though it's 20% over greysheet.


    Later, Paul.

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