I hope you see that your MPL registry in your signature has light blue toning in spots on almost all of your coins (It is a beautiful set btw)! I hope you realize that if those coins were left in the exact same state they were in when they began the toning that it would develop further to the point where most of the coin would be bright blue/magenta. Even though they are RD/RB they all exhibit the toning that is quite common on bronze coins. It should be no surprise that there are coins where the entire surface has those colors that your coins show in very small amounts.
I'm pretty sure there are a few ongoing discussions that point out how these types of statements are not 100% fact. Remember, copper has a natural disposition to turn blue. Just because copper is blue does not guarantee that it has been hit with MS70. Don't be the person who tries to make a point with a logical fallacy...
When bronze coins have toning they almost always have some amount of blue.
Have a question...People post photos as above showing the cert. # for a PCGS coin. Where do I find the grade? Do I need to go to the PCGS website and put in the Cert.# or is there an easy way.
In hopes of becoming educated on commercial grading, when I see a photo of a beautiful copper coin with a few black spots, I want to know what it graded!
I have made my point clear, as recently as the past week with my support of Rick Snow - there are NT blue coppers out there. The problem is, the majority of them are AT and unless you are an expert (like Rick) it is extremely hard to tell. Given that, I pass on them - my harsh choice. Show me a secure plus PCGS slab and a sticker by either Rick or JA and then I would feel comfortable believing it. Otherwise, for me, pass. That's the beauty of this hobby.
Perhaps I was being too blunt and I apologize for that. It seems that many of the new higher pop early Lincolns that are being made or upgrading have the bluish hue. However, trying to use my set against me and my position is a stretch (and perhaps in poor taste). Carry on....
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Have a question...People post photos as above showing the cert. # for a PCGS coin. Where do I find the grade? Do I need to go to the PCGS website and put in the Cert.# or is there an easy way.
In hopes of becoming educated on commercial grading, when I see a photo of a beautiful copper coin with a few black spots, I want to know what it graded!
Thanks in advance.
On the top of the page is 'quick links', click on PCGS.
After that page opens scroll ALL the way down, bottom left is customer service.
Select 'Cert Verification' and enter the cert number that is on the slab, or the nos. on the photograph.
Ah yes... those pretty blue toned coins. I don't think anyone in this post is disputing that copper coins can obtain blue hues naturally.
BUT... it is a well documented fact that MS70 use results in blue toned coins; actually quite attractive. It has been discussed numerous times on this forum whether it is 'doctoring' or a 'natural enhancement'. While I find them somewhat attractive, I PASS on them if I suspect the use of MS70.
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MS60 turns copper green and yellow my friend......perhaps you meant MS70?
Lincoln set Colorless Set
Seems to be a thing now.
fixed!
pass, pass, pass
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
I hope you see that your MPL registry in your signature has light blue toning in spots on almost all of your coins (It is a beautiful set btw)! I hope you realize that if those coins were left in the exact same state they were in when they began the toning that it would develop further to the point where most of the coin would be bright blue/magenta. Even though they are RD/RB they all exhibit the toning that is quite common on bronze coins. It should be no surprise that there are coins where the entire surface has those colors that your coins show in very small amounts.
I'm pretty sure there are a few ongoing discussions that point out how these types of statements are not 100% fact. Remember, copper has a natural disposition to turn blue. Just because copper is blue does not guarantee that it has been hit with MS70. Don't be the person who tries to make a point with a logical fallacy...
When bronze coins have toning they almost always have some amount of blue.
bid, bid, bid
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Is that one the latest victim of MS70?
Have a question...People post photos as above showing the cert. # for a PCGS coin. Where do I find the grade? Do I need to go to the PCGS website and put in the Cert.# or is there an easy way.
In hopes of becoming educated on commercial grading, when I see a photo of a beautiful copper coin with a few black spots, I want to know what it graded!
Thanks in advance.
Sold for $99,875 in the latest generation holder.
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I have made my point clear, as recently as the past week with my support of Rick Snow - there are NT blue coppers out there. The problem is, the majority of them are AT and unless you are an expert (like Rick) it is extremely hard to tell. Given that, I pass on them - my harsh choice. Show me a secure plus PCGS slab and a sticker by either Rick or JA and then I would feel comfortable believing it. Otherwise, for me, pass. That's the beauty of this hobby.
Perhaps I was being too blunt and I apologize for that. It seems that many of the new higher pop early Lincolns that are being made or upgrading have the bluish hue. However, trying to use my set against me and my position is a stretch (and perhaps in poor taste). Carry on....
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
On the top of the page is 'quick links', click on PCGS.
After that page opens scroll ALL the way down, bottom left is customer service.
Select 'Cert Verification' and enter the cert number that is on the slab, or the nos. on the photograph.
Ah yes... those pretty blue toned coins. I don't think anyone in this post is disputing that copper coins can obtain blue hues naturally.
BUT... it is a well documented fact that MS70 use results in blue toned coins; actually quite attractive. It has been discussed numerous times on this forum whether it is 'doctoring' or a 'natural enhancement'. While I find them somewhat attractive, I PASS on them if I suspect the use of MS70.
You can also enter the URL in the address bar and add the cert number where the X's are and hit the return key.
pcgs.com/cert/XXXXXXXX
- Bob -

MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Thanks, I was able to do it by the first method. It makes reading the posts about certain coins much more useful!