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1/4 Economy Sub Finally Back In- GRADES and TRUE VIEWS-- Curious "J.A. BOYER" counterstamp

boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 15, 2017 1:01PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hey all! My 1/4/17 sub is finally back (electronically) and I am pretty satisfied. I'll go ahead and post the snip of the grades from my desktop, then log in from my phone and post the true views. Have a great day!

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    boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2017 12:54PM

    Here're the true views, in order:















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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were you going for a lowball on the trade dollar?

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    boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @KellenCoin said:
    Were you going for a lowball on the trade dollar?

    I was, but I knew ahead of time it would not go. Too much rim. I was at least hoping for a fair based on total lack of detail of the reverse eagle.

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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:
    Here're the true views, in order:















    Do you know about the A. Boyer counterstamp?

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    boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @KellenCoin said:

    @boyernumismatics said:
    Here're the true views, in order:















    Do you know about the A. Boyer counterstamp?

    I've seen the same exact counterstamp "J.A. Boyer" on seated half dollars up until the early 1870s, but I do not know much about it other than that. I can only assume it was a "company store" sort of thing. My last name is Boyer, so I tried to have it encapsulated and failed lol.

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm curious as to how that 1910 got a MS-62RD designation. Did you call them to see if it might be a mechanical error? It's a nice looking Lincoln, but I could only see RB as the best it could do.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 51-S is sweet!

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    boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @jtlee321 said:
    I'm curious as to how that 1910 got a MS-62RD designation. Did you call them to see if it might be a mechanical error? It's a nice looking Lincoln, but I could only see RB as the best it could do.

    Im guessing it is because the reverse where the roll had it exposed is still a nice matte red. Whatever The graders say it is, I'm not going to argue. Lol

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    boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    The 51-S is sweet!

    Thanks! I love the matte surfaces of it. It was cracked out of an ANACS MS64 slab I believe. The 53 was cracked from a brand new NGC 65 slab. Gotta love it.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm seeing a lot of low grade coins and poor-1 graded coins on the shared orders page.

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes it's best not to argue. LOL

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 1913 Cent is to die for!

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @jtlee321 said:
    I'm curious as to how that 1910 got a MS-62RD designation. Did you call them to see if it might be a mechanical error? It's a nice looking Lincoln, but I could only see RB as the best it could do.

    Im guessing it is because the reverse where the roll had it exposed is still a nice matte red. Whatever The graders say it is, I'm not going to argue. Lol

    If the 1910 actually looks like the True View image then there is no way, no how that PCGS would ever call that a RD designation. It is either a mechanical error on the slab insert or simply an electronic error in their grade report.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice group- did you think they would holder the Boyer counterstamp?

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    carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think you can submit the Boyer piece as a token if it is in Brunk or Rulau

    http://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals/

    Counterstamped Coinage, from the reference "Merchant and Privately Countermarked Coins" by Gregory G. Brunk.
    Rulau Tokens and Counterstamps, from the reference "Standard Catalog of United States Tokens 1700-1900" by Russell Rulau

    The countermark is certainly clear enough - is there another problem with it?

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    carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2017 4:19PM

    I had to check my Rulau catalog, of course. It is listed J. A. Boyer as a maverick MV C21 (struck on a quarter) known on an 1858-O and cross-referenced to Brunk 4740

    MV D21 on half dollars 1855, 1858
    MV E21 on large cents 1827, 1840, 1854
    MV F21 on a British penny

    Perhaps you could re-submit it or give them a call?

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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    yeah that is red all day (not)

    congrats on the 53

    ridiculous how they wont straight grade the 1960... there should be a reflex where coins like this go to error category (although with the crazy price they get for error grading I can see where that wont work... something needs to change)

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    nice presentation of grades/images.

    @boyernumismatics said:
    Here're the true views, in order:















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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice group!

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