Where's a link to such a price guide? The only CAC price "guide: that make sense to me are the premiums paid for CAC MS65/66 generic gold and Morgans....and this is in a sight-unseen market....unlike the majority of US coinage. For most other US coins it still comes down to the coin itself, the holder it's in.....just like it always has been.
HA in their auctions lists a lot of price guides including CAC. That's free to all. Good luck getting strong offers from CAC, in my experience they don't pay strong for coins they don't need. Maybe it is someone else trying to make a market in their stickered coins.
I'm a believer in a layer of protection. Who needs to see the coin ? If I like it and it's worth it, then I will bid.
So, if I don't win, I'm the loser ( or I save some money for something else).
The holder protects the coin. The label (house) assure the authenticity and condition, or market acceptable grade. And the sticker reminds us that one set of eyes from /among the best in the business , also ensures it. Voila: it then goes in another data base (another layer of protection )
Bottom line : The prices increase. That's a win/win and a lose - lose. (Depends on who the underbidder is)
In closing, let me say : " Step up to the plate" , and Play Ball. Price guides. LOL
When trying to figure out the value of coin that I'm not closely familiar with, I will use half a dozen "pricing guides/sources" before reaching a conclusion, which still may not be right. When I bought my 1803 half dime in NGC AU58 I had no clue what it was really worth....only that the asking price was clearly way too low (ie most or all price guides had it too low). I eventually found out what it was worth....by selling it....and only found 1 dealer out of a dozen experts willing to step up and pay me MS60 money for it. Then the new owner resubmitted for upgrade and got an MS62, increasing the market value another 50%....lol. I paid $4500 from a local dealer just after it returned from NGC after being an over-the-counter raw purchase. Sold it for $9500 6 months later. And it then realized $14,500 at auction only 6 months after that.
@logger7 said:
HA in their auctions lists a lot of price guides including CAC. That's free to all. Good luck getting strong offers from CAC, in my experience they don't pay strong for coins they don't need. Maybe it is someone else trying to make a market in their stickered coins.
When they offer to buy your coin they still have to add the mark up on the coin for the resell. You need to find the end buyer and you can skip one layer of
Mark NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!! working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
Eliminate the Guesswork … Quickly Find Accurate, Up-to-Date CAC Market Prices Before You Buy or Sell Your Next CAC Coin – and Save or Make More Money on Every Coin Deal!
CAC Coin
Introducing the New
CAC® Market Values!
The first and only independent monthly price guide
exclusively for CAC coins
By expert rare coin pricing analyst
Mark Ferguson and Numisma Publishing
@logger7 said:
HA in their auctions lists a lot of price guides including CAC. That's free to all. Good luck getting strong offers from CAC, in my experience they don't pay strong for coins they don't need. Maybe it is someone else trying to make a market in their stickered coins.
When they offer to buy your coin they still have to add the mark up on the coin for the resell. You need to find the end buyer and you can skip one layer of
I'm pretty sure JA works on 3%. If you're willing to do all the work and replicate his contact base for that 3%, more power to you
@logger7 said:
HA in their auctions lists a lot of price guides including CAC. That's free to all. Good luck getting strong offers from CAC, in my experience they don't pay strong for coins they don't need. Maybe it is someone else trying to make a market in their stickered coins.
When they offer to buy your coin they still have to add the mark up on the coin for the resell. You need to find the end buyer and you can skip one layer of
I'm pretty sure JA works on 3%. If you're willing to do all the work and replicate his contact base for that 3%, more power to you
I'm sure it is not a flat percentage but skewed so that on cheaper items it is enough to justify their need for profits. One coin they made me an offer around $280 on was worth and sold over $420. Many of their offers are no where near Greysheet. I thought the bid had something to do with their offers, but it must be something else.
I'm sure it is not a flat percentage but skewed so that on cheaper items it is enough to justify their need for profits. One coin they made me an offer around $280 on was worth and sold over $420. Many of their offers are no where near Greysheet. I thought the bid had something to do with their offers, but it must be something else.
What was the coin and grade? Are you saying you ended up selling that coin for $420? (to collector or dealer?). Or did you pay $420 for it?
@logger7 said:
HA in their auctions lists a lot of price guides including CAC. That's free to all. Good luck getting strong offers from CAC, in my experience they don't pay strong for coins they don't need. Maybe it is someone else trying to make a market in their stickered coins.
When they offer to buy your coin they still have to add the mark up on the coin for the resell. You need to find the end buyer and you can skip one layer of
I'm pretty sure JA works on 3%. If you're willing to do all the work and replicate his contact base for that 3%, more power to you
I'm sure it is not a flat percentage but skewed so that on cheaper items it is enough to justify their need for profits. One coin they made me an offer around $280 on was worth and sold over $420. Many of their offers are no where near Greysheet. I thought the bid had something to do with their offers, but it must be something else.
I'm not sure who you're talking about but how could you know what CAC wholesaled (they do no retail) your coin for?
They offered me $280 for a coin that sold I over $420 which was a CAC premium anyway so not a good example on Greysheet vs. their offers. It would just be interesting to have an idea of what connection their offers have to Greysheet.
Comments
Where's a link to such a price guide? The only CAC price "guide: that make sense to me are the premiums paid for CAC MS65/66 generic gold and Morgans....and this is in a sight-unseen market....unlike the majority of US coinage. For most other US coins it still comes down to the coin itself, the holder it's in.....just like it always has been.
Try this link RR.
http://cacmarketvalues.com/?inf_contact_key=e42f1cc31799d48fc396a185c479392840cc52ff30591e9d57e7d508c8675258
Link does not work. I would like to see the CAC price guide as well.....
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
Buy the coin, Not the holder and Not the sticker.
Just the coin use your eyes NOT a price guide.
Why trust someone else's opinion?
HA in their auctions lists a lot of price guides including CAC. That's free to all. Good luck getting strong offers from CAC, in my experience they don't pay strong for coins they don't need. Maybe it is someone else trying to make a market in their stickered coins.
I'm a believer in a layer of protection. Who needs to see the coin ? If I like it and it's worth it, then I will bid.
So, if I don't win, I'm the loser ( or I save some money for something else).
The holder protects the coin. The label (house) assure the authenticity and condition, or market acceptable grade. And the sticker reminds us that one set of eyes from /among the best in the business , also ensures it. Voila: it then goes in another data base (another layer of protection )
Bottom line : The prices increase. That's a win/win and a lose - lose. (Depends on who the underbidder is)
In closing, let me say : " Step up to the plate" , and Play Ball. Price guides. LOL
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
When trying to figure out the value of coin that I'm not closely familiar with, I will use half a dozen "pricing guides/sources" before reaching a conclusion, which still may not be right. When I bought my 1803 half dime in NGC AU58 I had no clue what it was really worth....only that the asking price was clearly way too low (ie most or all price guides had it too low). I eventually found out what it was worth....by selling it....and only found 1 dealer out of a dozen experts willing to step up and pay me MS60 money for it. Then the new owner resubmitted for upgrade and got an MS62, increasing the market value another 50%....lol. I paid $4500 from a local dealer just after it returned from NGC after being an over-the-counter raw purchase. Sold it for $9500 6 months later. And it then realized $14,500 at auction only 6 months after that.
When they offer to buy your coin they still have to add the mark up on the coin for the resell. You need to find the end buyer and you can skip one layer of
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
Eliminate the Guesswork … Quickly Find Accurate, Up-to-Date CAC Market Prices Before You Buy or Sell Your Next CAC Coin – and Save or Make More Money on Every Coin Deal!
CAC Coin
Introducing the New
CAC® Market Values!
The first and only independent monthly price guide
exclusively for CAC coins
By expert rare coin pricing analyst
Mark Ferguson and Numisma Publishing
I'm pretty sure JA works on 3%. If you're willing to do all the work and replicate his contact base for that 3%, more power to you
I'm sure it is not a flat percentage but skewed so that on cheaper items it is enough to justify their need for profits. One coin they made me an offer around $280 on was worth and sold over $420. Many of their offers are no where near Greysheet. I thought the bid had something to do with their offers, but it must be something else.
What was the coin and grade? Are you saying you ended up selling that coin for $420? (to collector or dealer?). Or did you pay $420 for it?
I'm not sure who you're talking about but how could you know what CAC wholesaled (they do no retail) your coin for?
They offered me $280 for a coin that sold I over $420 which was a CAC premium anyway so not a good example on Greysheet vs. their offers. It would just be interesting to have an idea of what connection their offers have to Greysheet.