Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
In the category Making some coins
$200 – A: In 2001 a 1792 copper one of these minted in Philadelphia sold for $1.15 million at auction. Contestant #3: What is a penny? (Alex accepted it instead of cent)
$400 – A: Only 2 of the 1975 “No S” Proof Roosevelt this coin are said to exist. Contestant #1: What are dimes?
$600 – A: In 1948 Ben Franklin was on our Half-Dollar Piece; 1964 saw the first minting with this man’s face. Contestant #2: Who is Kennedy?
$800 – A: In 2000 this Shoshone woman first graced out golden dollar coin. Contestant #2: Who is Sacagawea?
$1000 – A: The US Mint says modern facilities in Philadelphia and this city together have “produced as many as 28 billion coins in a single year.” Contestant #2: What is San Francisco? Contestant #3: What is New York? Contestant #1: no answer
Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
Actually, I know of a frequent poster here who was a 5 time winner on Jeopardy. And that was at the time when you could only win 5 times max.
And even more surprising to some... he is a dealer.
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Never had an IQ test but I did get a full academic scholarship which paid for my bachelors and masters degrees in engineering (years ago) so I was at least smart enough to not incur any crippling student loans.
It's definitely higher than the average, though it doesn't reflect the 100% true statistics of how smart you are, it's more about how good you can solve certain kind of tasks
Originally posted by: BryceM Average IQ of coin collectors? Here on the forum, those attending the summer ANA seminars, or those at the local flea market?
What about coin vault regulars ? People who buy colorized silver eagles or gold plated state quarter aficionados ? If we stir that lot into the mix we are going to dip below room temperature.
It's definitely higher than the average, though it doesn't reflect the 100% true statistics of how smart you are, it's more about how good you can solve certain kind of tasks
Indeed! I don't even believe there is such a thing as "intelligence" in the sense that people usually define it. We are simply mistaking artefacts of language and an event I call "cleverness" as a condition we believe is intelligence.
The closest thing in reality to "intelligence" is speed of thought and even the slowest people experience cleverness; just less often, less accurately, and more slowly.
Originally posted by: ProofArtworkonCircs Approx 150 based on GRE exams. Some experts say these correlate very well with standard IQ exams. Others disagree.
I believe, based on memory, that genius is 150. I think, again from memory, that that's the IQ required for MENSA membership. I belive that they do take some standardized test scores (MCAT, GRE, etc) as surrogates for an IQ test for membership. So, I think that you're correct.
I'd totally guess the average IQ of avid collectors is about 115 or a bit higher. Above average.
I think that that avid coin collectors have far more general knowledge than the average person as they, as others have pointed out, seem to have interests far beyond simply collecting. One learns a lot about history, technology, etc from collecting.
Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
Actually, I know of a frequent poster here who was a 5 time winner on Jeopardy. And that was at the time when you could only win 5 times max.
And even more surprising to some... he is a dealer.
knowing trivia does not prove anything.
Given the breadth of knowledge needed, the speed that one has to think about the game and to answer, I think that it's a safe bet that a 5 time Jeopardy champion has a genius (150) IQ. That would be an interesting thing for a psychology post doc or someone similar to study.
There are different IQ tests with differing standard deviations. Usually it is close to 15.
Mensa accepts members at the 98 percental or IQ = 130 (One Stanford Binet test is 132 required, Cattel is 148). Triple Nine society 99.9 percental requires an IQ of 146 (if standard deviation is 15)
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Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
In the category Making some coins
$200 –
A: In 2001 a 1792 copper one of these minted in Philadelphia sold for $1.15 million at auction.
Contestant #3: What is a penny? (Alex accepted it instead of cent)
$400 –
A: Only 2 of the 1975 “No S” Proof Roosevelt this coin are said to exist.
Contestant #1: What are dimes?
$600 –
A: In 1948 Ben Franklin was on our Half-Dollar Piece; 1964 saw the first minting with this man’s face.
Contestant #2: Who is Kennedy?
$800 –
A: In 2000 this Shoshone woman first graced out golden dollar coin.
Contestant #2: Who is Sacagawea?
$1000 –
A: The US Mint says modern facilities in Philadelphia and this city together have “produced as many as 28 billion coins in a single year.”
Contestant #2: What is San Francisco?
Contestant #3: What is New York?
Contestant #1: no answer
Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
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I recently spent $285 on a 1 cent coin. I can't be that bright.....
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IQ, hmm all I know is I Am going fishing today and not sitting in a cubical making 250K a year.
Is the guy spending all his time in a cube making tons of dough smarter than someone just getting by and spending a lot of time fishing?
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Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
Actually, I know of a frequent poster here who was a 5 time winner on Jeopardy. And that was at the time when you could only win 5 times max.
And even more surprising to some... he is a dealer.
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Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
Actually, I know of a frequent poster here who was a 5 time winner on Jeopardy. And that was at the time when you could only win 5 times max.
And even more surprising to some... he is a dealer.
knowing trivia does not prove anything.
Average IQ of coin collectors? Here on the forum, those attending the summer ANA seminars, or those at the local flea market?
What about coin vault regulars ? People who buy colorized silver eagles or gold plated state quarter aficionados ? If we stir that lot into the mix we are going to dip below room temperature.
It's definitely higher than the average, though it doesn't reflect the 100% true statistics of how smart you are, it's more about how good you can solve certain kind of tasks
Indeed! I don't even believe there is such a thing as "intelligence" in the sense that people usually define it. We are simply mistaking artefacts of language and an event I call "cleverness" as a condition we believe is intelligence.
The closest thing in reality to "intelligence" is speed of thought and even the slowest people experience cleverness; just less often, less accurately, and more slowly.
Approx 150 based on GRE exams. Some experts say these correlate very well with standard IQ exams. Others disagree.
I believe, based on memory, that genius is 150. I think, again from memory, that that's the IQ required for MENSA membership. I belive that they do take some standardized test scores (MCAT, GRE, etc) as surrogates for an IQ test for membership. So, I think that you're correct.
I'd totally guess the average IQ of avid collectors is about 115 or a bit higher. Above average.
I think that that avid coin collectors have far more general knowledge than the average person as they, as others have pointed out, seem to have interests far beyond simply collecting. One learns a lot about history, technology, etc from collecting.
Ever seen a numismatist on Jeopardy ? Didn't think so.
Actually, I know of a frequent poster here who was a 5 time winner on Jeopardy. And that was at the time when you could only win 5 times max.
And even more surprising to some... he is a dealer.
knowing trivia does not prove anything.
Given the breadth of knowledge needed, the speed that one has to think about the game and to answer, I think that it's a safe bet that a 5 time Jeopardy champion has a genius (150) IQ. That would be an interesting thing for a psychology post doc or someone similar to study.
Mensa accepts members at the 98 percental or IQ = 130 (One Stanford Binet test is 132 required, Cattel is 148).
Triple Nine society 99.9 percental requires an IQ of 146 (if standard deviation is 15)
I'd say that the average for serious collectors is 125-135.
Mine is about 85 . . . I'm dumb as a rock!
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then that makes 2 of us.
I caught a Sea Hare.
Ocean rabbits, that's funny.
What is a IQ test? I got a zero on mine. I drew ocean rabbits on it.
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