Apparently not everyone is interested in Varieties.

oih82w8 · June 27, 2016 3:24AM

I, like so many others here in the forum, visit my usual websites looking at new arrivals and the existing inventory for something that may have been overlooked. I normally let the dealers know when I spot a CP Variety within their inventory that is not attributed as such. Most are appreciative and will add the FS Number to the description, hopefully after they examine it in hand, and sometimes adjust a price a notch. Others say that it is not worth the bother and let the collector find if they are interested.

While none of the varieties that I have identified (and not purchased) are earth shattering or double the apparent value of the coin, I don't think that it is worth the hassle to have it sent in for attribution ($18 fee through PCGS, reholder fee $12 and shipping both ways) for the dealers.

I feel better when the coin that has been sitting for a spell is sold after the variety is placed in the description...like I had anything to do with it (sarc).

Varieties...love 'em or not...they are out there.

DIMEMAN · June 27, 2016 3:43AM

Originally posted by: oih82w8
I, like so many others here in the forum, visit my usual websites looking at new arrivals and the existing inventory for something that may have been overlooked. I normally let the dealers know when I spot a CP Variety within their inventory that is not attributed as such. Most are appreciative and will add the FS Number to the description, hopefully after they examine it in hand, and sometimes adjust a price a notch. Others say that it is not worth the bother and let the collector find if they are interested.

While none of the varieties that I have identified (and not purchased) are earth shattering or double the apparent value of the coin, I don't think that it is worth the hassle to have it sent in for attribution ($18 fee through PCGS, reholder fee $12 and shipping both ways) for the dealers.

I feel better when the coin that has been sitting for a spell is sold after the variety is placed in the description...like I had anything to do with it (sarc).

Varieties...love 'em or not...they are out there.

I wish you would stop letting them know or at least let me know first.

TwoKopeiki · June 27, 2016 4:24AM

Variety is the spice of life

My goal is complete a full variety set for my collecting area. Lots of over-dates, over-assayers and legend varieties to track down and I love the hunt!

oih82w8 · June 27, 2016 5:10AM

Jon, I thought that you wanted to find them on your own? I'll see what I can do...remember...you asked for it!

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AUandAG · June 27, 2016 5:38AM

So, if you don't want to buy it then you feel it's okay to tell the dealer what he really has so that he can't be cherrypicked by the rest of us.

Get a life of your own.

Cherrypicking is the spice of collecting.

bob

bronco2078 · June 27, 2016 6:10AM

Originally posted by: oih82w8
I, like so many others here in the forum, visit my usual websites looking at new arrivals and the existing inventory for something that may have been overlooked. I normally let the dealers know when I spot a CP Variety within their inventory that is not attributed as such. Most are appreciative and will add the FS Number to the description, hopefully after they examine it in hand, and sometimes adjust a price a notch. Others say that it is not worth the bother and let the collector find if they are interested.

While none of the varieties that I have identified (and not purchased) are earth shattering or double the apparent value of the coin, I don't think that it is worth the hassle to have it sent in for attribution ($18 fee through PCGS, reholder fee $12 and shipping both ways) for the dealers.

I feel better when the coin that has been sitting for a spell is sold after the variety is placed in the description...like I had anything to do with it (sarc).

Varieties...love 'em or not...they are out there.

I don't care about varieties either but you are ruining other collectors chance to find them on purpose ?

oih82w8 · June 27, 2016 6:22AM

Sad on my part...I did not think of it that way...keyword "think". There are times I wish I had an "undo" button.

Thank you for the reality check. Cease to assist mode...deactivated.

Cameonut · June 27, 2016 6:55AM

Over the years I have had more fun and made more money on varieties than cameos. Cameos are relatively easy to spot but you need a little knowledge to spot varieties quickly. It had become so difficult to find nice cameos in the wild that I had to find something else of interest.

I've cherried pieces in unattributed holders and many raw coins. My favorite find was this 1961 Proof Franklin from an unopened proof set (yes unopened). No cameos in that set but the DDR made my year....

howards · June 27, 2016 7:28AM

Most coins are extremely common. Varieties are a way to look for something potentially rare on a common coin. Besides, varieties (at least the ones I collect) are visually dramatic (as in, "How drunk were those guys when they made that die??").

TwoSides2aCoin · June 27, 2016 7:31AM

Variety is the life of spice in numismatics.

oih82w8 · June 27, 2016 8:06AM

Cameonut, that is the "big-daddy" of the Franklin series (I think)! Incredible find!

I realize that there some out there in "numismatic-land" who have not the time or the inclination to "cherry-pick, I thought that I was doing a fovor one this board previously by bring these that I have seen to light. Most of the dealers that I have been in contact with usually says "thanks" for the info, but rarely upcharge for the variety.

Just trying to help, but it seems that this type of help is not wanted at this time.

I will continue to lean forward and try not to fall on my face...again.

Thank you to those who sent PM's of encouragement.

MedalCollector · June 27, 2016 8:40AM

Originally posted by: oih82w8
Sad on my part...I did not think of it that way...keyword "think". There are times I wish I had an "undo" button.

Thank you for the reality check. Cease to assist mode...deactivated.

Don't feel bad about it. If an unattributed variety sits unsold for a long time and sells only once you alert the seller, you still end up with a happy coin collector in the end! The cherry picker is no better and no worse than a coin collector that is willing to pay full price.

AUandAG · June 27, 2016 8:57AM

Originally posted by: GoldenEgg

Originally posted by: oih82w8

Sad on my part...I did not think of it that way...keyword "think". There are times I wish I had an "undo" button.

Thank you for the reality check. Cease to assist mode...deactivated.

Don't feel bad about it. If an unattributed variety sits unsold for a long time and sells only once you alert the seller, you still end up with a happy coin collector in the end! The cherry picker is no better and no worse than a coin collector that is willing to pay full price.

This is NOT true. There are cherrypickers (probably most of us) that look for unrecognized by the dealer varieties that we can score a cheap price on. Knowledge is key and those of us that look for certain varieties that are not disclosed hope to snag a coin on the cheap instead of paying up for that coin. If it sits for a "long time" then most likely it is not a variety that commands a premium. Dealer probably knows this but does not care as there is not enough increase in value (if any) to be worth his time and trouble.

Just leave well enough alone is all I'm saying....leave the cat in the bag.

bob

bronco2078 · June 27, 2016 9:12AM

Originally posted by: oih82w8
Sad on my part...I did not think of it that way...keyword "think". There are times I wish I had an "undo" button.

Thank you for the reality check. Cease to assist mode...deactivated.

If you feel the need to tip someone off throw a bone to someone here on the forum that collects that variety.

They may return the favor down the line

joeykoins · June 27, 2016 9:21AM

Originally posted by: AUandAG

Originally posted by: GoldenEgg

Originally posted by: oih82w8
Sad on my part...I did not think of it that way...keyword "think". There are times I wish I had an "undo" button.

Thank you for the reality check. Cease to assist mode...deactivated.

Don't feel bad about it. If an unattributed variety sits unsold for a long time and sells only once you alert the seller, you still end up with a happy coin collector in the end! The cherry picker is no better and no worse than a coin collector that is willing to pay full price.

This is NOT true. There are cherrypickers (probably most of us) that look for unrecognized by the dealer varieties that we can score a cheap price on. Knowledge is key and those of us that look for certain varieties that are not disclosed hope to snag a coin on the cheap instead of paying up for that coin. If it sits for a "long time" then most likely it is not a variety that commands a premium. Dealer probably knows this but does not care as there is not enough increase in value (if any) to be worth his time and trouble.
Just leave well enough alone is all I'm saying....leave the cat in the bag.

bob

+1

oih82w8 · June 27, 2016 12:03PM

I have given out several "tips" to some of forum members, normally with appreciation, but most of those "tips" are for $500+ coins, that are found on some of the more pricey websites. Or a variety that someone already has and does not need/want to upgrade.

It's all good!

I will show my latest "find" by the end of the week...another Top Pop IHC, this time for my 20th Century Type Collection.

Apparently not everyone is interested in Varieties.

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