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  • 7Jaguars
    7Jaguars Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got my overstrikes. Favorite? That would be the 1915 half and then the 1915 Type I SLQ. The merc is OK, with FULL BANDS but just not as impressive. Still nice coins to pull up and look at....
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • jmski52
    jmski52 Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I got shipment notice, but no tracking. I think I got a tracking number last time. Still has not arrived... anyone else get theirs yet?

    I also got a shipping notice, a few days ago, but it hasn't arrived yet. I don't think I've ever had tracking on a DC shipment.
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  • braddick
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    Still waiting on mine too. . . glad I'm not alone.
  • Twobitcollector
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    Arrived yesterday
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  • bigjpst
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    Just got my shipping notification on the owl today
  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: jmski52

    I got shipment notice, but no tracking. I think I got a tracking number last time. Still has not arrived... anyone else get theirs yet?



    I also got a shipping notice, a few days ago, but it hasn't arrived yet. I don't think I've ever had tracking on a DC shipment.


    I got a shipping notice last week but no tracking number. Yesterday I got a tracking notice from My USPS:



    Shipment Activity................. Location...................... Date & Time

    Arrived at USPS Origin Facility AURORA, CO 80011 June 1, 2016 10:01 pm

    Departed Post Office LOVELAND, CO 80537 June 1, 2016 5:25 pm

    Acceptance LOVELAND, CO 80537 June 1, 2016 4:00 pm



    Seems Mr Carr was getting backed up but is catching up now.




  • Weiss
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    I like dcarr's technical skill and I have to give major props to how clever his overstrike program is. He took a concept that was already well-known (overstrikes) and modified it in a way I at least had never hear of before and which I suspect is totally new: complete and total overstrike of both sides of an authentic host coin (three sides if you include the rims). Neither adding nor subtracting material. Creating coins the mint could have made, on equipment the mint actually used, on actual mint pieces. And he stayed inside the law.

    The mint's own recent unsatisfying repurposed designs (2016 Merc, 2006 San Fran mint dollar) illustrate how well executed dcarr's overstrikes are. In my opinion, they are better than most of the mint's own attempts. It shows he's got his finger on the pulse of what we coin collectors want to see more than the mint does.

    Even with the minor, intentional alterations dcarr makes on his overstrikes, his interpretations somehow ring more true than the mint's own attempts at reviving classic designs. From hobbyists who notice every spec on a surface, every missing serif on a millimeter-wide letter, that says something.

    FWIW: my infamous fatty cac'd 1964 is one of his first overstrikes:

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  • DrBuster
    DrBuster Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Weiss





    FWIW: my infamous fatty cac'd 1964 is one of his first overstrikes:



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    Isn't that a 87-89 era holder....?



  • braddick
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  • Weiss
    Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: DrBuster


    Isn't that a 87-89 era holder....?



    I thought that added to the authenticity of the fantasy image

    So many of us love the older slabs. The fatty slab meant it had been seen in the golden age of slabbing. The gold cac meant it had been seen again in the modern era of slabbing, and that JA had approved of it and its quality.

    Those passing and somewhat arbitrarily desirable qualities (fatty slab, gold bean) pale in comparison to the unicorn of a '64 peace dollar. But we still pick up on them. If it and the montage image braddick posted of it with other older slabs makes anyone smile or think "that's cool", then I'm happy image
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  • DrBuster
    DrBuster Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice
  • UMCane
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    My 2015 DC World Coin set

    photo 20160208_132507_zpsry496ogw.jpg">2015 World Coin - Silver

    39mm Quadrum 2x2 with foam inserts

    "Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FWIW: my infamous fatty cac'd 1964 is one of his first overstrikes:

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    Mechanical error image

    (no mention of "D" mint mark).
  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Seems Mr Carr was getting backed up but is catching up now.


    That is a very accurate assessment of the current situation.
    I've shipped all orders up through number 11615.

    I'm processing and shipping about 50 orders per day.
    So in two days I'll be 100% caught up.
  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: UMCane
    My 2015 DC World Coin set - 2015 World Coin - Silver 39mm Quadrum 2x2 with foam inserts
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    Nice !
    That set is one of my favorites. Yes, it was somewhat pricey. But my purpose wasn't to make money on it. The purpose was to refine and showcase my favorite designs of 2007-2015. Making that set required sculptural refinements and the engraving, hardening, and polishing of ten dies (nine obverses, one reverse). And there were also nine different production runs with different coin press adjustments for each. All that, just to produce 36 sets.
  • rte592
    rte592 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Any info on this 5 ounce bar?

    Daniel Carr, Moonlight Mint.

    Bay item number: 291774460486



    I took a run at this bar and got out bid by a bidder with 0 feedback.

    Is there really that much of a following for these?

    Low mintage?

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  • WildIdea
    WildIdea Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: rte592
    Any info on this 5 ounce bar?
    Daniel Carr, Moonlight Mint.
    Bay item number: 291774460486

    I took a run at this bar and got out bid by a bidder with 0 feedback.
    Is there really that much of a following for these?
    Low mintage?
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    I saw that one, thought on bidding myself but thought it looked really suspect. The center detail of the obverse looked real soft, as it the light earth details were completely lost on a second generation transfer of some type. The reverse date and denom punches didn't look like the ones on the Carr bars I own. Maybe it's good, maybe not, but suspect by me none the less so I passed.

    Now that I see it went for $202.00 I see that I wasn't the only one as I would expect a five oz to go for at lest 400 on eBay.

    I hope Dan makes another run of these in odd numbers! Think 2.5, 3, 4 etc!!! Just buy them from him if you can.

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: WildIdea
    Originally posted by: rte592
    Any info on this 5 ounce bar?
    Daniel Carr, Moonlight Mint.
    Bay item number: 291774460486

    I took a run at this bar and got out bid by a bidder with 0 feedback.
    Is there really that much of a following for these?
    Low mintage?
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    I saw that one, thought on bidding myself but thought it looked really suspect. The center detail of the obverse looked real soft, as it the light earth details were completely lost on a second generation transfer of some type. The reverse date and denom punches didn't look like the ones on the Carr bars I own. Maybe it's good, maybe not, but suspect by me none the less so I passed.

    Now that I see it went for $202.00 I see that I wasn't the only one as I would expect a five oz to go for at lest 400 on eBay.

    I hope Dan makes another run of these in odd numbers! Think 2.5, 3, 4 etc!!! Just buy them from him if you can.



    That is a legitimate (genuine) "Carr Bar".
    The 5-oz version was stamped on hand-poured (irregular) bars. Small pockmarks etc are normal.
    Prior to 2015, the date and denomination counter-stamps were in a smaller font like that.
    This one is the earlier "Moonlight Refinery" obverse. Later issues have a "Clark Gruber" obverse. I might make some more Moonlight Refinery bars at some point in the future, using a new die (and with new/current dates).

    The "JUN 2012" 5-oz bar with "fancy back" (as shown above) has a total production of 28.
    See the 7th section from the top, footnote 08: gold/silver rounds/bars by Moonlight Mint & Clark Gruber

    Here are some pictures from my original product listing:
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  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: dcarr
    Originally posted by: WildIdea
    Originally posted by: rte592
    Any info on this 5 ounce bar?
    Daniel Carr, Moonlight Mint.
    Bay item number: 291774460486

    I took a run at this bar and got out bid by a bidder with 0 feedback.
    Is there really that much of a following for these?
    Low mintage?
    image


    I saw that one, thought on bidding myself but thought it looked really suspect. The center detail of the obverse looked real soft, as it the light earth details were completely lost on a second generation transfer of some type. The reverse date and denom punches didn't look like the ones on the Carr bars I own. Maybe it's good, maybe not, but suspect by me none the less so I passed.

    Now that I see it went for $202.00 I see that I wasn't the only one as I would expect a five oz to go for at lest 400 on eBay.

    I hope Dan makes another run of these in odd numbers! Think 2.5, 3, 4 etc!!! Just buy them from him if you can.



    That is a legitimate (genuine) "Carr Bar".
    The 5-oz version was stamped on hand-poured (irregular) bars. Small pockmarks etc are normal.
    Prior to 2015, the date and denomination counter-stamps were in a smaller font like that.
    This one is the earlier "Moonlight Refinery" obverse. Later issues have a "Clark Gruber" obverse. I still have the Moonlight Refinery die, so I might make some more of those at some point (with new/current dates).

    The "JUN 2012" 5-oz bar with "fancy back" (as shown above) has a total production of 28.
    See the 7th section from the top, footnote 08: gold/silver rounds/bars by Moonlight Mint & Clark Gruber



    Is the mintage number updated for the 2016 owl? Seems like it should be higher.
  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PS:
    These same dies were also used to stamp 1-oz bars on machine-punched blanks.
    The central circle is the Moon, not the Earth. On the 1-oz bars, it shows up better and in the right light it looks like the Moon in the night sky (as intended):
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  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is the mintage number updated for the 2016 owl? Seems like it should be higher.


    Thanks for pointing that out. I had not yet had a change to update it. But I just now changed it.

    PS:
    If you go to that page, you might have to press the "refresh" button to see the update.
  • mariner67
    mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
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    I have to say Dan.....I think that is a gorgeous bar!
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  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Those bars are a fantastic...looking forward to being able to obtain one of the next versions.



    The 64-D Carr Dollar would be nice to have as well! image
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  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    There's May, 2012, I think this is the first offered by DC, a one oz'er, I have a 5 oz 05/12 in the SDB, I'm pretty sure. I sold a 2012 DC five oz'er at cost a while ago. Seemed to not be going anywhere, price wise, so I sold it. Is a DC 2012 5 oz'er worth anything? Silver price was strong then, not so much now.

    Edit - I've never been sure whether the globe is a depiction of the earth, or, not. I'm going not.

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  • mariner67
    mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
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    "Edit - I've never been sure whether the globe is a depiction of the earth, or, not. I'm going not."

    aahh..as Dan mentions just above…it is of the moon at night!
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  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: mariner67
    "Edit - I've never been sure whether the globe is a depiction of the earth, or, not. I'm going not."

    aahh..as Dan mentions just above…it is of the moon at night!


    Check. Missed the DC comment. Thanks. Read more, post less.
  • COCollector
    COCollector Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just received my latest Dan Carr purchase. Very pleased!



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  • MFH
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    Dan notified me that my two SLQ's ( Ty 1 & Ty 2 ) have been shipped.
    These will immediately go into an old National Album I have just for
    Quarters. There's a 1931-S waiting patiently as well.

    I also have a great looking 1916 Half in an National Album as well.
    There was one empty spot after 1915-S....it's the perfect fill in coin.

    Say what you will about these erroneous dates - I enjoy them - and I
    have no intentions of selling them.

    Just a suggestion, but a 1793 Silver Dollar would certainly be a hit !!
    It could be tied in with a 1793 Half Disme, Disme, Quarter and Half Dollar.
    My mouth's watering as I think about this....image
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  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got the Octagon this afternoon. Very nice.

  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Kudbegud
    Got the Octagon this afternoon. Very nice.


    Me too.
    They both appear flawless.

    Neat design, and one I wished I had started collecting back in 2013.
  • Baley
    Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd like to get all my old coins scoured clean and then restruck with minty fresh surfaces and fantasy dates.

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  • PRECIOUSMENTAL
    PRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
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    Received my order of the newest over strikes today, however not the Octagon Owls. (Long way to fly to N.E. OH, lol)

    Should arrive Monday.

    The Walking Liberty 50c and the Standing Liberty 25c, in High Grade are AMAZING!
  • 7Jaguars
    7Jaguars Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I second that - like the 1915 S Walker best of all!
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very happy with my order. I did notice a mark on the reverse of th 15-S Walker could it be struck thru what do you think
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  • 7Jaguars
    7Jaguars Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like leftover damage on the host coin IMO, that was then struck by Danny's die.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: 7Jaguars
    Looks like leftover damage on the host coin IMO, that was then struck by Danny's die.


    "Danny's Die" would make a neat name for his blog.
  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Twobitcollector
    Very happy with my order. I did notice a mark on the reverse of th 15-S Walker could it be struck thru what do you think
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    The coins being over-struck often shed small particles of silver.
    That is a small struck-through piece.

    If there are a bunch of them on a coin, or if any are fairly large, the coin is converted to the "bulk-handled" category (or scrapped and melted if really bad).

    The "high-grade" pieces will generally have a small flaw or two (that is why I label them conservatively as "MS-65" grade).
  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: braddick
    Originally posted by: 7Jaguars
    Looks like leftover damage on the host coin IMO, that was then struck by Danny's die.


    "Danny's Die" would make a neat name for his blog.


    I'm not sure I like how that sounds image
  • PRECIOUSMENTAL
    PRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
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    Received my 'Octagon Owls' a few minutes ago, Very Nice!

    They were shipped a day earlier than my over strikes, (arrived Saturday) however package was in a 'loop' in an adjacent state, and given a new tracking number.

    Nice Work Dan.

  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    Finish it off with a silver 2016 Octo Owl proof. 25 -30 mintage. SRP $175

    MHO.
  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: epcjimi1
    Finish it off with a silver 2016 Octo Owl proof. 25 -30 mintage. SRP $175

    MHO.


    Is this a recommendation, or are these for sale somewhere?
  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    DC suggested he was thinking about it in a thread a while ago. My recommendation only.
  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: epcjimi1
    DC suggested he was thinking about it in a thread a while ago. My recommendation only.


    You had me scrambling to buy it before it sold out.. haha
  • Rodebaugh
    Rodebaugh Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
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    Looks good along side my 2015.

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  • PRECIOUSMENTAL
    PRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
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    Sure, I'd purchase the Proof Version.

    I do recall D.Carr Suggesting that he may do just that.

    I'm well pleased with his 'works.'
  • jessewvu
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    Some Bulk handled coins are available again.
  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    2015 Silver Owl goes for $400 BIN on ebay, $75 + shipping original asking price to $400 BIN minus ebay fees, about 400%, not bad, MHO

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  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I mentioned I thought his owl reverse would be an instant classic when this first came out. Glad to see Dan's original work shine on his pieces and his website:

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  • PRECIOUSMENTAL
    PRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
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    My initial thought as well upon first seeing the design.
  • BUFFNIXX
    BUFFNIXX Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    you can send them to anacs for slabbing, they do most if not all of the Carr creations.
    and for an additional fee they will conserve the piece if necessary
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