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toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
Hi all,

A while back, I purchased a small lot of MS Jeffersons in the first generation "rattler" holders and have been adding to the lot as I am able to find them. Needless to say, it has been a slow process (still looking).

I purchased an 1944-D MS65 in one of the rattler holders. When I try to put it into my registry inventory, it comes back as "bad cert number".

Has anyone experienced this before, and, if so, what can be done? I want to keep the rattler but would like to put in my inventory.

Thanks in advance,
George

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  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Email pcgs customer service. They will usually want a picture of the slab, front and back.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    start with a zero, you need 8 digits
  • csanotescsanotes Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: davewesen
    start with a zero, you need 8 digits


    I just tried that suggestion for an instance of the cert number not matching online with what the coin really is. With a leading 0, the coin still comes back as an 1877 Proof IHC, which is very different from an MS66FB Mercury Dime.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: csanotes

    Originally posted by: davewesen

    start with a zero, you need 8 digits




    I just tried that suggestion for an instance of the cert number not matching online with what the coin really is. With a leading 0, the coin still comes back as an 1877 Proof IHC, which is very different from an MS66FB Mercury Dime.






    Yes, that's a different problem. I had that problem before and, because I was the one that reported it, I had to send in MY coin to be relabeled. I wasn't happy as it was an older holder and not an expensive coin, so it was a PITA.



    For the OP's issue, I would agree with Dave's solution as that is what I have had to do.

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  • toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: csanotes
    Originally posted by: davewesen
    start with a zero, you need 8 digits


    I just tried that suggestion for an instance of the cert number not matching online with what the coin really is. With a leading 0, the coin still comes back as an 1877 Proof IHC, which is very different from an MS66FB Mercury Dime.


    I too have had that problem. Had an 1882-S MS63PL. Cert said $10 gold. Didn't get the gold, but did lose my rattler holder and got a new cert number.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: toyz4geo

    Originally posted by: csanotes

    Originally posted by: davewesen

    start with a zero, you need 8 digits




    I just tried that suggestion for an instance of the cert number not matching online with what the coin really is. With a leading 0, the coin still comes back as an 1877 Proof IHC, which is very different from an MS66FB Mercury Dime.




    I too have had that problem. Had an 1882-S MS63PL. Cert said $10 gold. Didn't get the gold, but did lose my rattler holder and got a new cert number.




    If the coin in a rattler is more dear to you as is, then you'll probably want to live with whatever error there is with the cert number. I would never send in a coin in a doily holder to be reholdered, simply to correct a mistake.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the cert number begin with 50? If so, there was an issue with the PCGS data entry for a time period when those certs were issued.
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  • toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TomB
    Does the cert number begin with 50? If so, there was an issue with the PCGS data entry for a time period when those certs were issued.


    No. It starts 222xxxx. I looked on eBay looking for that series of numbers on rattler holders and found several, all starting with 222. Nothing close enough to be part of the same submission though.
  • djmdjm Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It also could be a stolen coin. If the Police report them to PCGS as stolen they will come up as a bad cert.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think PCGS has much choice. Fixing this means submitting your coin for a new cert and holder. That's the only way to get it into your registry. It won't cost a nickel



    OTOH, if you want it in your PCGS online inventory but don't need it for a registry set then just add it as a non-PCGS coin.

    Lance.
  • toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: lkeigwin
    I don't think PCGS has much choice. Fixing this means submitting your coin for a new cert and holder. That's the only way to get it into your registry. It won't cost a nickel

    OTOH, if you want it in your PCGS online inventory but don't need it for a registry set then just add it as a non-PCGS coin.
    Lance.


    Good thought. The thing is it is a MS Jefferson in a rattler. So far I have been able to put together a small grouping of MS Jeffersons in rattler holders, including this one. I would rather keep the rattler intact rather than a new cert #. Adding as non pcgs will allow me to keep inventory intact.

    I have emailed PCGS with pics of the obverse and reverse. Quick response that they are looking into it. Fingers crossed that they can just fix it.

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