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Hungary Rare (and Thick) Double Schautaler (St. Georgstaler)

ZoharZohar Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
This is my Baltimore show random raw pickup which I found in a dealer's table. A very scarce 2 Show Taler (Schautaler). I could only find one auction reference. This one weighs 61 grams. Will get this imaged properly yet hopefully the designwork comes across with these.



1750s. Austria - Habsburg Territories. Cities in the Habsburg lands. Kremnitz Mint. Rare Dicker Double Schautaler (St. Georgstaler), ND (18th Century Issue). Engraved by Heinrich Fuchs. 61.74gr. Obv: St. George riding right, slaying the dragon. Reverse: Wind god blows to right. Christ and two apostles on ship. Huszar (Voglhuber 23, listed as a simple Schautaler). RR Very attractive item. Huszar has this piece as engraved by Heinrich Fuchs who worked at the Kremnitz mint during the mid-18th century. He suspects that under the wing of the dragon on the left is the medalist’s signature. NGC AU-55.



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    Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭
    An awesome medal.
    Member ANS, ANA, GSNA, TNC



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    JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow.



    Don't drop that on your toe. It looks like it would hurt!

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    IosephusIosephus Posts: 872 ✭✭✭
    Wow, impressive hunk of silver!

    Is there a meaning for the designs in relation to the issuer?
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's pretty wild! Thanks for sharing, Z.
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    CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    Neat. I think I have the 1/4 Schautaler version of that medal sitting around the office somewhere.
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    AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    Beautifull medal, dicker double Schautaler ? image , I think the correct description is Piedfort Thaler
    collector of Greek banknotes - most beautifull world banknotes - Greek & Roman ancient coins.
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    ZoharZohar Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From Google German-English Translate: adjective



    thick

    dick, stark, dicht, dickflüssig, mächtig, voll



    fat

    fett, dick, fetthaltig, korpulent, üppig, ergiebig



    large

    groß, hoch, stark, großzügig, reichlich, lang



    big

    groß, hoch, dick, weit, wichtig, schwer



    heavy

    schwer, stark, hoch, schwerfällig, dick, massiv



    stout

    dick, stark, korpulent, beleibt, untersetzt, derb



    plump

    mollig, pummelig, rundlich, dick, rund, dicklich



    hefty

    kräftig, schwer, dick, klobig, saftig, gewichtig
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
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    AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    Those words are not very numismatic related, Piedfort is.
    Piedfort
    collector of Greek banknotes - most beautifull world banknotes - Greek & Roman ancient coins.
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    ZoharZohar Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe Piedfort refers to pattern/trial/gift issues. The standard description I see in European for any of these issues is simply described "dicker", i.e. thick. I assume that if these were Piedfort they would be termed as such but maybe I am mistaken. Examples - #1 and #2
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice piece indeed image
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    AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    Piedfort Ducaton

    Piedfort ducaton spain

    Piedfort Silver Rider

    Piedfort Silver Rider II

    the term Piedfort is used by Heritage - MPO auctions / Jean Elsen Belgium and other auction house in the Netherlands - Belgium and France
    collector of Greek banknotes - most beautifull world banknotes - Greek & Roman ancient coins.
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome piece!
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