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PL 1965 canadian dime struck thru thread or?

spoilrspoilr Posts: 122 ✭
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Any collector interest in these?
Is this an imprint of cloth thread or hair?
Tough to get a good image shooting thru the celo.mint packaging.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat. It certainly looks like it.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's really curly so if it's a hair the press operator might have... Oh never mind imageimage



    Seriously it looks like lint which is a pretty common strike through or struck in item.
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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How short is the hair?image

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    sylsyl Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭✭
    Is it raised or incuse on the coin?
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    spoilrspoilr Posts: 122 ✭
    Incused!
    And another question re:struck thru thread.
    Seems to me that varieties such as this are a one time happening and would not occur on the next coin being struck as the object or thread would be destroyed.
    Assuming the above isn't it incorrect to describe these as varieties when the condition
    only occurs once?
    I thought that a variety designation referred to a condition where there are a number of coins struck that exhibit the same error.
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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    believe a variety is when there are more than one?
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    sylsyl Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭✭
    A strike-thru is an error, not a variety. As others have said, a variety will occur on any number of coins. Hans Zoell, one of the variety pioneers in Canadian numismatics had a great definition for a Major variety: It is a coin struck with a good planchet, with good dies, on good machinery, and with the proper pressure/process. As such, it came from a die approved by the mintmaster and not something that evolved as striking progressed. Anything less than that was not a major variety, but rather a Minor one or an error. Die cracks, cuds, plugged dies, rotated dies, bad planchets, etc were never, in his eyes, Major varieties. I agree with him and feel that varieties deal with spacings, recuts, repunches, Obverse or Reverse design changes, etc so that every coin produced by that working die is the same. Once the die is put to work and mechanical changes occur to the process (cracks, pits, adjustments) it is still the same initial variety but with "stage changes". Hub Doubling would be a variety, while most mechanical doublings would not be. Hub doubling is a permanent anomaly to the working die when it is made while mechanical doubling is loosening of the die because of set screws or keepers(machinery malfunction). Repunches are also permanent changes to the die. Dr Haxby, I think, got the "vanilla" term from me .. something that's plain and nothing special .. which I use for the vast majority of 1859's
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    spoilrspoilr Posts: 122 ✭
    Good info syl.
    Thank you
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The lint was a remnant left on the dies after they had been polished.



    This type of error is more so seen on proof or specimen presentation pieces then typical business strikes issued for commerce.



    It's not a mint error type which adds any great value since it's not dramatic or mechanical.
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