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1937 Quarter with nickel impression. Your thoughts?

EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
A customer came in with this and I can't figure out how this happened. It is a 1937 quarter which is regular weight. It has on the reverse a raised area and an impression on the base of a Buffalo Nickel showing "FIVE CENTS". The raised area in connected to the planchet and is not separated from the rest of the planchet.



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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    Are the weight and diameter correct?

    It appears to be slightly oblong, however, may be the display on my lap top.

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PMD
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a strange one.


    To me it has the look of a "vice job".


    I think perhaps someone pressed a Buffalo nickel reverse into some piece of metal, and then that piece of metal was pressed into the quarter.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dcarr
    That is a strange one.

    To me it has the look of a "vice job".

    I think perhaps someone pressed a Buffalo nickel reverse into some piece of metal, and then that piece of metal was pressed into the quarter.



    If it's not legit it would have to be like Dan Carr is suggesting as the "Five Cents" on this coin is not backwards. I'm no expert at this kinda stuff but this one is interesting.

    May I ask where you acquired this piece?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    False die overstrike on a normal quarter.
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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another oddity is the fact that the "Five Cents" is stamped so clearly and the top rim of the "nickel" is so deep, yet there is no evidence of the U.S. of A. being struck in the upper portion of the strike. No evidence of a buffalo image either. This is truly weird and most interesting. Sure a lot of work went into making this. Thanks for sharing, Rick.

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It didn't leave any US Mint like that.



    It appears that a counterfeit rev. die for Buffalo Nickels

    was pressed into the reverse of the Quarter.



    For some reason, only the 'one cent', and a few other small

    areas of the NG Die hit the surface of the coin - and the balance

    of that NG Die just pressed into the reverse, leaving the 'cut'

    circular marks.



    Not sure that's exactly how it was made, but I am certain, without

    any doubt, that it's not a real mint error coin......Sorry.........



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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dcarr
    That is a strange one.

    To me it has the look of a "vice job".

    I think perhaps someone pressed a Buffalo nickel reverse into some piece of metal, and then that piece of metal was pressed into the quarter.


    image The FIVE CENTS did not come from a mint die. Also note the obverse rims. Squeeze job.

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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you check if the part where the buffalo would appear (five cents) is in fact silver? I would say if you can prove that the edge shows its silver also, might mean something?

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder what happened to the date?
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have heard that someone is such a penny pincher that they can Abe scream. Not sure about putting the squeeze on George...there's got to be a joke in there somewhere.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    post mint damage (fwiw)
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    EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for your responses. You confirm my suspicions. I think it is a genuine 1937 quarter pressed into a counterfeit buffalo nickel reverse die. The fake die was seated in a hollow "collar" that was part of the fake die preparation. The pressure was applied only to the area on the obverse just inside the rim, which is why it looks weak near the rim on the obverse. That is also why only the FIVE CENTS shows - its near the rim.
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