Looks like it needed a good dipping before you sent it in, the haze is obstructing the mirrored fields. I would say you were lucky to even get the PL designation out of it.
Doesn't dipping result in actual damage to the metal on the coin's surface and the attachment of sulfur ions to the surface that eventually corrode?
Some people use the word dipping a little too liberally and then people think that an acidic solution is being used all the time etc which would cause harm...
MS70 is an industrial cleaner that does not have acid in it and when used properly on mid to high grade silver, it works great! Just a use a q-tip to push the liquid around on each side of the coin, rinse in warm water and then pat/air dry and you are able to remove haze/surface contaminants etc. No change to the metal is caused when using MS70 properly. Wear chemical/rubber gloves though!
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I agree with Brian's observation that as depicted on your posted photos the haze exhibited is partially obstructing the mirrored fields. -- This could result in otherwise DMPL depth mirrored fields being downgraded to the prooflike designation.
Stuart
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Maybe the central obverse held it back? Not quite frosty enough. Are the mirrors all there and deep?
Devices are not factored into PL/DMPL designations. I think the coin looks solidly PL but I see areas of weakness - the hazy parts on the reverse as others have mentioned but also the upper-left obverse. I think the grading services have been especially tough on DMPL coins recently.
All that said, it's nearly impossible to tell the distinction from a glamour-shot Truview.
Originally posted by: HighRelief Looks like it needed a good dipping before you sent it in, the haze is obstructing the mirrored fields. I would say you were lucky to even get the PL designation out of it.
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tough to tell from the photos. Looks good to me.
Forgot to say it only got PL
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Coin looks to be a very solid PL.
Mike
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Doesn't dipping result in actual damage to the metal on the coin's surface and the attachment of sulfur ions to the surface that eventually corrode?
Some people use the word dipping a little too liberally and then people think that an acidic solution is being used all the time etc which would cause harm...
MS70 is an industrial cleaner that does not have acid in it and when used properly on mid to high grade silver, it works great! Just a use a q-tip to push the liquid around on each side of the coin, rinse in warm water and then pat/air dry and you are able to remove haze/surface contaminants etc. No change to the metal is caused when using MS70 properly. Wear chemical/rubber gloves though!
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Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Maybe the central obverse held it back? Not quite frosty enough. Are the mirrors all there and deep?
Devices are not factored into PL/DMPL designations. I think the coin looks solidly PL but I see areas of weakness - the hazy parts on the reverse as others have mentioned but also the upper-left obverse. I think the grading services have been especially tough on DMPL coins recently.
All that said, it's nearly impossible to tell the distinction from a glamour-shot Truview.
Looks like it needed a good dipping before you sent it in, the haze is obstructing the mirrored fields. I would say you were lucky to even get the PL designation out of it.
I have to agree, the haze is covering the PL
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Maybe that is what held it back?
From the pictures, there are some frost breaks on the cheek and neck and left wing .
Maybe that is what held it back?
Once again, that does not matter for MS coins. Frosted devices are only an issue for the CAM and DCAM designations.