My second holdered Merc new, 1941. Answers on Page 2.

Realone · November 25, 2015 8:43AM

Guess the grade and please opine:
oh shucks how about an eBay item#391323788666
sorry but that is the best I can do at this time.

robec · November 25, 2015 8:44AM

I'm not seeing anything.

TomB · November 25, 2015 8:45AM

It's awfully transparent.

keyman64 · November 25, 2015 8:58AM

What did I miss? Check IGWT for strong doubling. If it is the FS-101 DDO then you did well.

kaz · November 25, 2015 9:00AM

Linkus Dinkus

keyman64 · November 25, 2015 9:12AM

Besides some terminal toning, it looks nice. Not the DDO though.

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TomB · November 25, 2015 9:21AM

If it's the linked ANACS holdered coin then I saw that when it was a fresh listing and thought the reverse had negative eye appeal.

keyman64 · November 25, 2015 9:31AM

Originally posted by: Realone

Originally posted by: keyman64

Besides some terminal toning, it looks nice. Not the DDO though.

What and where would you find terminal toning? Who said anything about a ddo?

The first time I posted in this thread, I said to check it in case it might be the DDO since that would be a great Cherrypick. Once a link to the coin was posted, I checked to see if it was the DDO and just said that it was not. That's all.

As far as toning goes, when you get to the dark flat gray to black toning on silver coinage, that tends to be terminal toning where the toning/tarnish has most likely eaten through the layer of luster on a Mint State coin. It contributes to problems and negative eye appeal.

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keyman64 · November 25, 2015 9:45AM

Just going on the photos provided. That's all you have given us. What else would we have to go on? I'd very much enjoy seeing professional images of the coin. TomB and I have provided our thoughts based on what we have been shown. That's all.

mercurydimeguy · November 25, 2015 9:54AM

I owned a 1925 MS66FB NGC coin that had a similar obverse look. After trying to cross it to PCGS 3x I gave up. I also thought it was cool but came to learn that the toning was so deep, it was almost at the point of environmental damage, and wouldn't even cross at an MS65. It would also likely become less attractive over time, not more.

I sold it to a dealer, who liked the coin. That was about 10 years ago, give or take. I just checked, he still has it, the coin is still for sale, and it's still in an NGC 66FB holder to this day.

So...unless the photos of your coin are worse than the actual coin in hand, and given the coin is super duper common, I cannot imagine it in a better than MS66FB PCGS holder.

Just my 10 cents on this topic

Broadstruck · November 25, 2015 9:59AM

If your building a type set with your 21 P$1 being the other coin in it to match this Merc mates well.

I'll add a neutral on the obverse along with TomB's negative reverse.

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scubafuel · November 25, 2015 12:46PM

It's cool looking. Going off the slab pics of the reverse it doesn't look to me like the toning is terminal. Just a dark closeup pic.

lordmarcovan · November 25, 2015 6:50PM

The toning is a little heavy for my taste (looks like rust with that orange color), but it's definitely cool even if it isn't my cuppa tea, personally. I can still say "nice coin" and mean it.

winky · November 25, 2015 11:06PM

After looking at it, I just don't know what to think.

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jerseycat101 · December 10, 2015 1:11AM

I love it. Great orange color.

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jerseycat101 · December 10, 2015 1:57AM

Originally posted by: Realone

Originally posted by: jerseycat101
I love it. Great orange color.

Thanks, but which one do you love, top or bottom?

Sorry for my ambiguous response. I like them both, but I love the OP coin from the eBay auction.

I'm a big fan of the burnt sienna toning and the elevation chromatics on the reverse.

grip · December 10, 2015 1:57AM

Guess you have to see it in hand. At first it looked like a fire coin.

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valente151 · December 10, 2015 7:08AM

Originally posted by: Realone

So mine is in an old ANACS holder (2 letters 4 digits) MS66 FSB @$ 175

then other is in a new NGC holder PR69 @ $16,000

and I kind of like my toning more

Which would you rather own the old ANACS MS66 or the New NGC PR69?

I believe that second one is in NFC's inventory in an NGC PROOF 69 holder, not a BS coin. If it is the same coin, I saw it in hand a few days back, it's a superb coin. Toning sits differently on a proof coin than an MS coin, so its hard to compare the two. Discussion over the given grade and value are a different story, but I can say the proof surfaces pop through the color and the toning accents them perfectly.

I yield to RealOne on his NEWP, as he has seen it in hand. In hand view trumps all pics.

On a preference level, I prefer the NGC Proof coin, just because I like brilliant proof toners better than BS coins in this series, though there are many toned BS coins that have their own merits.

Mark · December 10, 2015 7:09AM

Realone:

Since I'd probably sell the coin if I owned, undoubtedly I'd prefer the PR69 because I can sell it for more.

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