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Since when can you get a refund on an Ebay item and keep it as well???

TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
I bought a coin off Ebay a couple weeks ago and thought I could see some very light graffiti in the obverse field that was not mentioned by the seller. When trying to contact the seller I clicked on the " received item not as described " and ended up getting a full refund from the seller. As soon as the refund went through I got this message from Ebay.
This return is now completed

The seller refunded $190.00 to your original payment method in PayPal. You don't need to return this item to the seller - you can keep the item.


I had already returned the item, and do not think it would have been right to keep it. How long has this been going on and how is this fair to a seller to lose their item and have to give a buyer a refund?
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    nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm guessing the seller selected the wrong option when responding to your "item not as described" complaint.
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    It is up to the seller to decide whether they want the item returned or not when issuing a refund.



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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when can you get a refund on an Ebay item and keep it as well???




    It's been that way for a long time but I can't say when it started. Amazon does it as well. I have purchased several low dollar items of the years that were not as described and after notifying the seller, I was refunded and told to keep the item. These cases were all under $20 and it was not worth time/money to have them returned. Seller's choice not mine.
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What???? If I sold something that was INAD by the buyer I would absolutely want it back, inconvenient or not to the buyer. I did hear about return shipping is (can be) on the seller.
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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could see not wanting it back if it was only a few bucks, but $190 ???
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8

    What???? If I sold something that was INAD by the buyer I would absolutely want it back, inconvenient or not to the buyer. I did hear about return shipping is (can be) on the seller.




    If you initiate a return by the means provided for by eBay, the seller will eventually get whacked for return shipping.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It has happened to me once, but the refund had been long delayed and there had been some SNAFUs with communication so the seller deliberately let me keep the coin and gave me a refund, so got positive feedback from me once the debacle was resolved.



    I also once issued a partial refund to someone who was unhappy with a PCGS MS65 Peace dollar that had a big hairline across the forehead and had no business in MS65 plastic. He should have paid more attention to the listing, but when he whined after overpaying for the coin, I sent him a partial refund and let him keep it to make him happy and to save hassle all around.



    But having it happen without the seller's knowledge and/or consent would be strange, and I wouldn't like it, even if I were the one getting the refund.



    Originally posted by: davewesen

    I could see not wanting it back if it was only a few bucks, but $190 ???




    Does seem rather generous on the seller's part, if it was deliberate. In the first situation I described above where I got a refund and got to keep the coin, it was also a $190-200-ish item. But in my case the seller had been incommunicado for a month or so before it was resolved, and perhaps wanted to make up for that. It was also a biggish company which no doubt had one person doing the eBay stuff and several others running the shop, so both the communications problem and the "here's a refund, you keep the coin" thing could have been a case of one hand not knowing what the other was doing.

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    You probably just got the wrong message from eBay. If you all ready started the return using eBay's retrun label the seller and eBay saw it was in transit (or received by the seller).


    On low value items, eBay will sometimes just do a return out of their pocket and tell the buyer they can keep it. But not on a $190 coin.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To answer your question. When the coin is a counterfeit it is not returnable and you get all your money back.



    Tough luck for those that sell fakes.



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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    Next time you won't be so quick to mail it back.
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    mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think there is a bug in Ebay's software - I'm not sure what triggers it, but it appears to be some kind of timing issue. I also recently returned two items. On one of them, the seller messaged me as part of the return process, indicating he would refund me after he received the coin back from me. The coin arrived, he refunded almost immediately, and then a couple hours later I got the same message you got from Ebay saying that I no longer needed to return the item.



    FWIW - for the other item I returned the steps involved were almost identical, except that the seller waited a day and a half before refunding me. I did not get the message from Ebay saying that I did not have to return the item.
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    BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    As a 15 year seller I can believe just about anything anymore, especially if it favors the buyer ..

    The seller in this case just clicked the wrong response and luckily had an honest buyer that has morals and returned the product ..



    I could tell you real story scenarios of every possible eBay atrocity as a buyer and seller, but the site would run out of bandwidth and some may not live through the entire story .



    Anybody that wants to sell regularly on eBay by this point knows what they face and best understand all of the risks and build it into their business plan .. It is a site that favors the buyer and the seller bares all of the risk ..



    That's reality !!
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ebay sucks. We already knew this.
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    BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin
    Ebay sucks. We already knew this.


    Not for buyers, hustlers and scammers ..

    It's still a place to sell, but has just gotten worse for the seller every year image
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only buy on there. And this has a lot to do with that!
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN
    Originally posted by: oih82w8
    What???? If I sold something that was INAD by the buyer I would absolutely want it back, inconvenient or not to the buyer. I did hear about return shipping is (can be) on the seller.


    If you initiate a return by the means provided for by eBay, the seller will eventually get whacked for return shipping.


    Seller needs to quickly respond to provide return shipping...otherwise, yes ,buyer gets the refund and keeps the item. ..

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