<< <i>Whether he's marking up the items 10% or 310% is immaterial. Regardless of his asking prices, the guy still got ripped off and is not the crook here. >>
you still don't get me or understand what I wrote. >>
I understand perfectly, thanks. The dealer screwed up and shouldn't have taken the check; you state the obvious. No one's saying he didn't screw up. But...Regardless of whether you think his coins were overpriced (something you seem to be fixated upon)... that does not alter, ameliorate or change his status as the victim in all this- and throwing shade on him seems rather tacky imo.
<< <i>Having read through previous posts I see, unsurprisingly, the not very subtle inferences that since it was a dealer who got ripped, the crime is somehow offset or lessened by the quality of the material stolen. These same folks, were it they who were defrauded, would no doubt be dripping with righteous indignation and calling for the perp's head to be placed upon a pike, and would bristle if someone were to say "well, it's not like your stuff was all that great"...which is what is in essence being inferred here. Stay classy. >>
If directed at me, I have already stated the buyer is a CRIMINAL, no two ways about it. But the dealer knows full well that he rolled the die by relaxing all prudent safety measures typically used by dealers probably because he was selling questionable coins at an extremely inflated price. A crime was committed, no two ways about it but the amount of the stolen monies is most probably massively inflated imho. >>
How classy of you to call Larry Briggs' character in to question. What gives you the right to publicly make a derogatory proclamation about the nature of his inventory ?
Larry made me whole on an expensive old SEGS coin that ended up having problems. I never thought there would have been any recourse but he is a person of integrity, at least he was with me!
<< <i>Realone does have a point - I'd be much more willing to take a $30k check if I was marking my coins up 300% than if I was marking them up 10% >>
Yup.
Did I read somewhere that Larry had seen this guy at shows before? Most crooks don't show up often up where you start to "recognize" them. And if not, most dealers would usually ask for at least one dealer reference present at the show before accepting a 5 figure check. If it were me I'd ask for a couple of them and walk the room to verify.
I recall back in 2004 when a dealer started to write me a personal check for a $1250 MS64 capped bust half dime. I didn't know the guy and asked if he had any dealer references at the show. I wasn't too keen on taking a $1K hit for $100 profit. That's when he stated he was Gorden Wrubel and was working for ANR/Bowers. Same GW who was a PCGS founding member. Half a dozen dealers within 30 ft all vouched for him. Doh! I accepted his check.
JMHO, but the rationale that somehow tries to shift blame to the dealer who was ripped off is kind of similar to the reasoning used by a defense attorney who tries to paint a rape victim as responsible for what happened, heck, she wanted it, right??
<< <i>Having read through previous posts I see, unsurprisingly, the not very subtle inferences that since it was a dealer who got ripped, the crime is somehow offset or lessened by the quality of the material stolen. These same folks, were it they who were defrauded, would no doubt be dripping with righteous indignation and calling for the perp's head to be placed upon a pike, and would bristle if someone were to say "well, it's not like your stuff was all that great"...which is what is in essence being inferred here. Stay classy. >>
If directed at me, I have already stated the buyer is a CRIMINAL, no two ways about it. But the dealer knows full well that he rolled the die by relaxing all prudent safety measures typically used by dealers probably because he was selling questionable coins at an extremely inflated price. A crime was committed, no two ways about it but the amount of the stolen monies is most probably massively inflated imho. >>
...and you're certain of this, how? You were there when the items were acquired? Know how much was paid? Intimately familiar with their exact condition and current value? Know precisely at what levels other should value their items? What difference does the value make anyway? Theft is theft. Insulting the victim of a crime after the fact and rubbing his nose into it makes one wonder if you have an axe to grind with him... >>
OK Mr smarty pants, answer me this riddle: why would a numismatic expert/coin dealer/owner o grading company who has been in the coin business longer than many here are alive throw away all prudent coin business judgment and take a $30k check from an unknown individual and at the same time hand over what he reports as coins valued at $30k? I don't know any other knowledgeable individual who would even think of doing that in this day and age. Might as well just give the coins to a perfect stranger that you walk by on the street....same risk. >>
First off I quoted you as asked. Next being that you are a very knowledgeable collector could you please point out all the faults with the posted coins that were in essence stolen from the dealer? I ask this purly to gain knowledge about the posted coins as they are not part of any series I collect. Your help will be appreciated.
This Michael S guy was just led out of the shop by the OPD , about 5 minutes ago for questioning. Not sure what's going on, but I'm not having fun with coins today.
<< <i>This Michael S guy was just led out of the shop by the OPD , about 5 minutes ago for questioning. Not sure what's going on, but I'm not having fun with coins today. >>
He walked into your store? >>
We agreed on a price on an 1893 S Morgan in PCGS VF , and a raw 1800 Bust Dollar this morning. I had to transfer funds and assist a friend in another situation so I told him to return. Two gals came in to sell items, and then a guy with his son to get quotes on coins…. at the same time he came back. Then the police walked in. They're in the cruiser outside with the guy and one officer came back to ask me if I wanted him "banned". I said,, "No"… and all this in the past hour… and they're out there, as this message is being typed.
<< <i>larry is one of the most knowledgeable dealers Ive ever met. he knows about EVERY series not just mercury dimes, or indian cents. if you spend some time at his table, watch what people bring to him for an opinion... then form an opinion of him. his only fault here is that he is too trusting. >>
I'll second that. He once took the time and educated us on a number of old 1700, early 1800 coins and their values. We were taken back with all the useful information he gave us. We were so impressed, we tipped him $20 for about 5 minutes work.
And with all incidents like this, there's always more to the story.
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<< <i>This Michael S guy was just led out of the shop by the OPD , about 5 minutes ago for questioning. Not sure what's going on, but I'm not having fun with coins today. >>
He walked into your store? >>
We agreed on a price on an 1893 S Morgan in PCGS VF , and a raw 1800 Bust Dollar this morning. I had to transfer funds and assist a friend in another situation so I told him to return. Two gals came in to sell items, and then a guy with his son to get quotes on coins…. at the same time he came back. Then the police walked in. They're in the cruiser outside with the guy and one officer came back to ask me if I wanted him "banned". I said,, "No"… and all this in the past hour… and they're out there, as this message is being typed.
Have pics of the cruisers, but not the coins. >>
Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy. Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later.
Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy. Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later. >>
Tell me what do I know about the guy ? He's knowledgeable, friendly and has a couple nice coins.
<< <i>Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy. Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later.
Tell me what do I know about the guy ? He's knowledgeable, friendly and has a couple nice coins. >>
Then that is what you should tell them. Maybe you can distract the cops and shove some cash in Mike's pocket and make a quick deal. He might be in a bad negotiating position and willing to take a little less than he originally wanted for his coins.
Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy. Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later. >>
Tell me what do I know about the guy ? He's knowledgeable, friendly and has a couple nice coins. >>
Pull up this thread on your smartphone/computer for the cops to read. You may want to check to see iffn those coins are hot fer ya buy em. Why was they shadowin him in the first place?
The police released him. Knowing there were warrants in other states, there was no extradition clauses and so the law could do nothing. Don't shoot the messenger. Or the buyer Hope springs eternal. These are not Larry's wares.
<< <i>The police released him. Knowing there were warrants in other states, there was no extradition clauses and so the law could do nothing. Don't shoot the messenger. >>
Hey, I did my "watching out, responding, reporting and outing". And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
<< <i>Hey, I did my "watching out, responding, reporting and outing". And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere. >>
Kudos to you! What's the next shop you think he might approach? Perhaps you can forewarn them?
And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible!
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<< <i>And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible! >>
<< <i>And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible! >>
My thought exactly.
I was self-employed buying and selling jewelry/diamonds for over 25 years and if I knew the past history of one of my clients was 'sketchy' at best, I'd never do business with him.
Ditto Incredible!!
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<< <i>Wow !!! Glad to know I can depend on you if someone rips me off for 30K. Jack wad. !!! >>
Who do you think reported it to the police and here ? Glad to see your true colors, too. If the 1800 Bust Dollar, and 1893 S Morgan are stolen, whoever can prove it via police report can get them back from me.
<< <i>And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible! >>
My thought exactly.
I was self-employed buying and selling jewelry/diamonds for over 25 years and if I knew the past history of one of my clients was 'sketchy' at best, I'd never do business with him.
Ditto Incredible!! >>
May your next 25 years bring you joy and happiness.
<< <i>My true colors ? That's easy, help the police lock up the bad guys... Good grief, you are something else... ! >>
How can I help the police ? I called them. They could not arrest the guy. There are extradtion rules, and those states who issued warrants did not want to spend their resources extraditing the guy, and he did nothing to cause me to use deadly force while he was in the shop.
Now, I did have the option of turning him away. This is true. My conscience is my guide. If the police released him and I got photos of him and the coins I purchased, and they are NOT HOT, I stand to make a small percentage. Not a huge profit like so many come bragging about. An honest day's work for an honest day's wage.
And if the coins are hot, and are returned to the rightful owner … then I am something else because the buck stops here. I've nothing further, your honor.
Larry should contact the prosecutor and try to get a restitution order (once indicted) should the perp have any assets. It will save him some attorney's fees in attempting to get back his money if the coins are gone.
Considering that the guy has crossed state lines to avoid prosecution, certainly the local LEO could have asked the FBI to step in. I see some lame responses from at least one party here.
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<< <i>Michael Sather who has been responsible for thousands of dollars in bad checks to dealers across the country has been arrested. Sather is currently being held in Newton, KS awaiting extradition to Iowa. Sather has confessed to several of the offenses and we are attempting to locate additional victims.
Anyone with information should contact : Doug Davis 817-723-7231 Doug@numismaticcrimes.org >>
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<< <i>Unfortunately Bryce, there are still people that would deal with him, thats just the world we live in… >>
That's right. The jailer in Kansas had to take him food . He may be extradited by now. Maybe some judges will deal with him more effectively than some of us lowly dealers ever could.
<< <i>Yes Sir, he stole $30,000.00 worth of coins from a dealer so he could go get a hamburger :-) >>
Yes sir. And I've had 3 dealers, two detectives, the ATF and a few deputies thank me for reporting. They said it makes their job easier. Just had a detective in today on another case. Nonetheless, think how you will out here in lala land. I do my best with what I've got to deal with in a shop each day, as it comes.
If this goes federal any and all people who had information of the crimes and chose to do business with him could be facing some serious charges as well. Check fraud sounds petty but is not. Knowing information about a crime and assisting in that crime or knowing about it and doing nothing is conspiracy. You can do some serious time for this but at least you will have someone making your food for you every day and have very little in the way of bills for a while say 10-30 years.
<< <i>If this goes federal any and all people who had information of the crimes and chose to do business with him could be facing some serious charges as well. Check fraud sounds petty but is not. Knowing information about a crime and assisting in that crime or knowing about it and doing nothing is conspiracy. You can do some serious time for this but at least you will have someone making your food for you every day and have very little in the way of bills for a while say 10-30 years. >>
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<< <i>Whether he's marking up the items 10% or 310% is immaterial. Regardless of his asking prices, the guy still got ripped off and is not the crook here. >>
you still don't get me or understand what I wrote. >>
I understand perfectly, thanks. The dealer screwed up and shouldn't have taken the check; you state the obvious. No one's saying he didn't screw up. But...Regardless of whether you think his coins were overpriced (something you seem to be fixated upon)... that does not alter, ameliorate or change his status as the victim in all this- and throwing shade on him seems rather tacky imo.
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<< <i>Having read through previous posts I see, unsurprisingly, the not very subtle inferences that since it was a dealer who got ripped, the crime is somehow offset or lessened by the quality of the material stolen. These same folks, were it they who were defrauded, would no doubt be dripping with righteous indignation and calling for the perp's head to be placed upon a pike, and would bristle if someone were to say "well, it's not like your stuff was all that great"...which is what is in essence being inferred here. Stay classy.
If directed at me, I have already stated the buyer is a CRIMINAL, no two ways about it. But the dealer knows full well that he rolled the die by relaxing all prudent safety measures typically used by dealers probably because he was selling questionable coins at an extremely inflated price. A crime was committed, no two ways about it but the amount of the stolen monies is most probably massively inflated imho. >>
How classy of you to call Larry Briggs' character in to question. What gives you the right to publicly make a derogatory proclamation about the nature of his inventory ?
Larry made me whole on an expensive old SEGS coin that ended up having problems. I never thought there would have been any recourse but he is a person of integrity, at least he was with me!
<< <i>Realone does have a point - I'd be much more willing to take a $30k check if I was marking my coins up 300% than if I was marking them up 10% >>
Yup.
Did I read somewhere that Larry had seen this guy at shows before? Most crooks don't show up often up where you start to "recognize" them. And if not, most dealers would usually ask for at least one dealer reference present at the show before accepting a 5 figure check. If it were me I'd ask for a couple of them and walk the room to verify.
I recall back in 2004 when a dealer started to write me a personal check for a $1250 MS64 capped bust half dime. I didn't know the guy and asked if he had any dealer references at the show. I wasn't too keen on taking a $1K hit for $100 profit. That's when he stated he was Gorden Wrubel and was working for ANR/Bowers. Same GW who was a PCGS founding member. Half a dozen dealers within 30 ft all vouched for him. Doh! I accepted his check.
what's wrong with you guys??
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<< <i>Having read through previous posts I see, unsurprisingly, the not very subtle inferences that since it was a dealer who got ripped, the crime is somehow offset or lessened by the quality of the material stolen. These same folks, were it they who were defrauded, would no doubt be dripping with righteous indignation and calling for the perp's head to be placed upon a pike, and would bristle if someone were to say "well, it's not like your stuff was all that great"...which is what is in essence being inferred here. Stay classy.
If directed at me, I have already stated the buyer is a CRIMINAL, no two ways about it. But the dealer knows full well that he rolled the die by relaxing all prudent safety measures typically used by dealers probably because he was selling questionable coins at an extremely inflated price. A crime was committed, no two ways about it but the amount of the stolen monies is most probably massively inflated imho. >>
...and you're certain of this, how? You were there when the items were acquired? Know how much was paid? Intimately familiar with their exact condition and current value? Know precisely at what levels other should value their items?
What difference does the value make anyway? Theft is theft. Insulting the victim of a crime after the fact and rubbing his nose into it makes one wonder if you have an axe to grind with him... >>
OK Mr smarty pants, answer me this riddle:
why would a numismatic expert/coin dealer/owner o grading company who has been in the coin business longer than many here are alive throw away all prudent coin business judgment and take a $30k check from an unknown individual and at the same time hand over what he reports as coins valued at $30k?
I don't know any other knowledgeable individual who would even think of doing that in this day and age. Might as well just give the coins to a perfect stranger that you walk by on the street....same risk. >>
First off I quoted you as asked. Next being that you are a very knowledgeable collector could you please point out all the faults with the posted coins that were in essence stolen from the dealer? I ask this purly to gain knowledge about the posted coins as they are not part of any series I collect. Your help will be appreciated.
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<< <i>This Michael S guy was just led out of the shop by the OPD , about 5 minutes ago for questioning. Not sure what's going on, but I'm not having fun with coins today. >>
He walked into your store? >>
We agreed on a price on an 1893 S Morgan in PCGS VF , and a raw 1800 Bust Dollar this morning. I had to transfer funds and assist a friend in another situation so I told him to return. Two gals came in to sell items, and then a guy with his son to get quotes on coins…. at the same time he came back. Then the police walked in. They're in the cruiser outside with the guy and one officer came back to ask me if I wanted him "banned". I said,, "No"… and all this in the past hour… and they're out there, as this message is being typed.
Have pics of the cruisers, but not the coins.
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<< <i>larry is one of the most knowledgeable dealers Ive ever met. he knows about EVERY series not just mercury dimes, or indian cents. if you spend some time at his table, watch what people bring to him for an opinion... then form an opinion of him. his only fault here is that he is too trusting. >>
I'll second that. He once took the time and educated us on a number of old 1700, early 1800 coins and their values. We were taken back with all the useful information he gave us. We were so impressed, we tipped him $20 for about 5 minutes work.
And with all incidents like this, there's always more to the story.
Leo
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<< <i>This Michael S guy was just led out of the shop by the OPD , about 5 minutes ago for questioning. Not sure what's going on, but I'm not having fun with coins today. >>
He walked into your store? >>
We agreed on a price on an 1893 S Morgan in PCGS VF , and a raw 1800 Bust Dollar this morning. I had to transfer funds and assist a friend in another situation so I told him to return. Two gals came in to sell items, and then a guy with his son to get quotes on coins…. at the same time he came back. Then the police walked in. They're in the cruiser outside with the guy and one officer came back to ask me if I wanted him "banned". I said,, "No"… and all this in the past hour… and they're out there, as this message is being typed.
Have pics of the cruisers, but not the coins.
Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy.
Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later.
Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy.
Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later. >>
Tell me what do I know about the guy ? He's knowledgeable, friendly and has a couple nice coins.
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<< <i>Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy.
Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later.
Tell me what do I know about the guy ? He's knowledgeable, friendly and has a couple nice coins. >>
Then that is what you should tell them.
Maybe you can distract the cops and shove some cash in Mike's pocket and make a quick deal.
He might be in a bad negotiating position and willing to take a little less than he originally wanted for his coins.
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Perhaps it would be useful to tell the cops what you know about this guy.
Otherwise, since you have chosen not to ban him, maybe cops will send him on his way and then he can come back and see you later. >>
Tell me what do I know about the guy ? He's knowledgeable, friendly and has a couple nice coins. >>
Pull up this thread on your smartphone/computer for the cops to read. You may want to check to see iffn those coins are hot fer ya buy em. Why was they shadowin him in the first place?
Don't shoot the messenger. Or the buyer
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<< <i>The police released him. Knowing there were warrants in other states, there was no extradition clauses and so the law could do nothing.
Don't shoot the messenger. >>
So I expect they'd already read it.
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So I expect they'd already read it. >>
You may.
We are entitled to expect here, aren't we ?
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Larry Briggs should be able to obtain it.
<< <i>Hey, I did my "watching out, responding, reporting and outing". And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere. >>
Kudos to you! What's the next shop you think he might approach? Perhaps you can forewarn them?
<< <i>I'm sure there was an incident report filed with the local police.
Larry Briggs should be able to obtain it. >>
A quick google search will reveal the warrants. Surprised the police were not aware of the warrants!
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible!
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<< <i>I'm sure there was an incident report filed with the local police.
Larry Briggs should be able to obtain it. >>
A quick google search will reveal the warrants. Surprised the police were not aware of the warrants! >>
First hand reports state that the police were aware, but there is no extridation option.
<< <i>And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible!
Go judge another.
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<< <i>And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible!
My thought exactly.
I was self-employed buying and selling jewelry/diamonds for over 25 years and if I knew the past history of one of my clients was 'sketchy' at best, I'd never do business with him.
Ditto Incredible!!
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<< <i>Wow !!!
Glad to know I can depend on you if someone rips me off for 30K. Jack wad. !!! >>
Who do you think reported it to the police and here ?
Glad to see your true colors, too.
If the 1800 Bust Dollar, and 1893 S Morgan are stolen, whoever can prove it via police report can get them back from me.
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<< <i>And I even told Michael if he screwed others, he'd best take care of it because I do not like dealing with cheaters, liars, thieves, or people wanted by the law anywhere.
Let me get this straight! You knew he was wanted for writing bad checks and stealing coins, AND you were still going to deal with him? Incredible!
My thought exactly.
I was self-employed buying and selling jewelry/diamonds for over 25 years and if I knew the past history of one of my clients was 'sketchy' at best, I'd never do business with him.
Ditto Incredible!! >>
May your next 25 years bring you joy and happiness.
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<< <i>My true colors ? That's easy, help the police lock up the bad guys...
Good grief, you are something else... ! >>
How can I help the police ? I called them. They could not arrest the guy. There are extradtion rules, and those states who issued warrants did not want to spend their resources extraditing the guy, and he did nothing to cause me to use deadly force while he was in the shop.
Now, I did have the option of turning him away. This is true. My conscience is my guide. If the police released him and I got photos of him and the coins I purchased, and they are NOT HOT, I stand to make a small percentage. Not a huge profit like so many come bragging about. An honest day's work for an honest day's wage.
And if the coins are hot, and are returned to the rightful owner … then I am something else because the buck stops here. I've nothing further, your honor.
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<< <i>Michael Sather who has been responsible for thousands of dollars in bad checks to dealers across the country has been arrested. Sather is currently being held in Newton, KS awaiting extradition to Iowa. Sather has confessed to several of the offenses and we are attempting to locate additional victims.
Anyone with information should contact :
Doug Davis 817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org >>
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If convicted, it's too bad we can't tattoo "coin thief" across his forehead. That would be the end of that.......
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<< <i>Unfortunately Bryce, there are still people that would deal with him, thats just the world we live in… >>
That's right. The jailer in Kansas had to take him food . He may be extradited by now. Maybe some judges will deal with him more effectively than some of us lowly dealers ever could.
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<< <i>Yes Sir, he stole $30,000.00 worth of coins from a dealer so he could go get a hamburger :-) >>
Yes sir. And I've had 3 dealers, two detectives, the ATF and a few deputies thank me for reporting. They said it makes their job easier.
Just had a detective in today on another case. Nonetheless, think how you will out here in lala land. I do my best with what I've got to deal with in a shop each day, as it comes.
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mistakes happen it's part of being human but learning from those mistakes makes sure we don't repeat those errors again
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<< <i>If this goes federal any and all people who had information of the crimes and chose to do business with him could be facing some serious charges as well. Check fraud sounds petty but is not. Knowing information about a crime and assisting in that crime or knowing about it and doing nothing is conspiracy. You can do some serious time for this but at least you will have someone making your food for you every day and have very little in the way of bills for a while say 10-30 years. >>