Counterfeit question

pocketpiececommems · September 15, 2015 11:47PM

If you purchase a coin on ebay and send it in of grading and it comes back as counterfeit can you get your money back from Paypal with their 90 day guarantee?

ebaybuyer · September 16, 2015 12:01AM

before you do that please post pics, ive had genuine coins returned as counterfeit.... on more than one occasion

jesbroken · September 16, 2015 12:08AM

I would contact the seller, if they are a creditable seller they should take care
of the coin if it is identifiable via ebay photos. I would think, regardless, either
ebay or paypal would assist in this matter. jmo
Jim

oih82w8 · September 16, 2015 12:26AM

Already expecting the worst? I would not buy a coin that I would even consider being counterfeit. It would probably be in your best interest to coordinate the TPG submittal with the seller to accept or decline those terms...otherwise, I would send it back now.

AUandAG · September 16, 2015 1:03AM

Yes is the answer. You do NOT return the coin. Provide Ebay with a pictured of the coin in the
"bodybag" that came back from PCGS. You will get your refund and the seller will not get the
fake to resell again. The fake should then be destroyed.
Go through Ebay and they will handle it.
Postal laws do not allow for sending counterfeits through the US mail system.

bob

LindeDad · September 16, 2015 1:14AM

Contact PayPal I think you now have six months in this type of case with them, if the seller hasn't skipped by then.

Wonder how PCGS can send it back if it's a known counterfeit then Bob?

AUandAG · September 16, 2015 1:28AM

Good question but it shows up like this:

pocketpiececommems · September 16, 2015 2:34AM

Not expecting the worst as this has happened to me in the past and I just let it go but was wondering if I had alternatives.

ebaybuyer · September 16, 2015 3:02AM

no matter what any TPG says, I would put the coin in front of an expert of that particular series... for an expert opinion. it is unfair and irresponsible to trust any TPG for final say

COALPORTER · September 16, 2015 3:14AM

<< <i>Yes is the answer. You do NOT return the coin. Provide Ebay with a pictured of the coin in the
"bodybag" that came back from PCGS. You will get your refund and the seller will not get the
fake to resell again. The fake should then be destroyed.
Go through Ebay and they will handle it.
Postal laws do not allow for sending counterfeits through the US mail system.

bob >>

What if it is an honest seller, don't they get a chance to take it
back to the dealer they got it from too ?

Shortgapbob · September 16, 2015 3:49AM

<< <i>Yes is the answer. You do NOT return the coin. Provide Ebay with a pictured of the coin in the
"bodybag" that came back from PCGS. You will get your refund and the seller will not get the
fake to resell again. The fake should then be destroyed.
Go through Ebay and they will handle it.
Postal laws do not allow for sending counterfeits through the US mail system.

bob >>

Problem with this approach is if a TPG gets the authenticity wrong (rare, but has/does happen), or if it is a counterfeit gold coin that still have a bullion value.

AUandAG · September 16, 2015 4:30AM

Honest seller that got duped can be shown the information and then can refund the
honest seller.

bob

winky · September 16, 2015 10:08AM

<< <i>If you purchase a coin on ebay and send it in of grading and it comes back as counterfeit can you get your money back from Paypal with their 90 day guarantee? >>

Not unless you talk to seller first before buying it. Just my thought.

Christos · September 16, 2015 5:23PM

The answer is yes. Both ebay and paypal are alternatives for a refund of a counterfeit coin. Just as Bob stated.

IrishMikey · September 17, 2015 5:03AM

Just going by the image provided, I would give that one another try. I have not seen many fake Trade $ with
that overall look. You might want to try ANACS, they see a lot of problem Trade dollars. Please do not cut the
coin in half before you investigate further. The "Authenticity Unverifiable" is confusing to me -- is this what PCGS
says when they send a coin back as fake now?

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