1954-S Nickel Toned, is there a premium for this

Christos · September 15, 2015 8:20AM

Is there a premium for this toning and if so how much? Opinions appreciated as this is not currently my coin but I do like the colors.

Bochiman · September 15, 2015 8:23AM

Depends.
Depends on state of coin (raw or graded)
Depends on the plastic surrounding it, when graded (PCGS, NGC, etc)
Depends on the grade of the coin
Etc.

I like the look as well, but my premium, since I am not a Jeff nickel dude, would be small and depend on overall pricing.
Others may see it as hard to get, etc.

Then, it depends whether it is seen as NT, MA, or QT/AT

Broadstruck · September 15, 2015 8:24AM

I think your safe paying 6 cents for that... Seriously how can you like any colors from those photos

oih82w8 · September 15, 2015 8:36AM

I agree with the aforementioned...plus it depends on you your audience is.

DollarAfterDollar · September 15, 2015 8:44AM

The nickel itself is common so not worth much. Since it's multicolored it's attractive but that begs the question AT/NT. Based upon the toning patterns I'd guess AT but I'm not a nickel guy so my opinion should carry no weight. I'd like others to chime in, but if you like it for small money (like $5-$10) then it's a nice coin.

Christos · September 15, 2015 8:56AM

<< The nickel itself is common so not worth much. Since it's multicolored it's attractive but that begs the question AT/NT. Based upon the toning patterns I'd guess AT but I'm not a nickel guy so my opinion should carry no weight. I'd like others to chime in, but if you like it for small money (like $5-$10) then it's a nice coin. >>

This Nickel is part of a mint set and I went ahead and purchased it. I will image the coins when in hand to better get an accurate opinion. The images are not mine. I think I will do standard lighting and axial lighting images, that should make for some better discourse.

coinkat · September 15, 2015 9:08AM

I suspect the coin is better in hand. Even if it is, the strike for the date is average at best which does not help the cause. I would rather have a well struck 54-s than one with color

291fifth · September 15, 2015 9:29AM

The color, even if natural, can't save it. Pass.

keyman64 · September 15, 2015 10:34AM

From the quality of the photos it looks like it has plenty of hits. Heck, it might even be circulated, can't tell.
When it comes to the colors, I have been conditioned to have my doubts.

Real value, oh sure...if it is Mint State, doesn't have terrible hits or spots and can make it into a problem free PCGS Holder!
Otherwise, it is of little value.

winky · September 15, 2015 10:46AM

<< I think your safe paying 6 cents for that... Seriously how can you like any colors from those photos

>>

I'd go 8 cents !!!

lasvegasteddy · September 15, 2015 10:49AM

<<< is waiting for your in hand and re-imaging before any opinion is offered

FullStepJeffs · September 15, 2015 1:22PM

<< The color, even if natural, can't save it. Pass. >>

Not worth the grading fees IMHO. Sorry.

TonerGuy · September 16, 2015 12:48AM

I will take the dissenting opinion here... as someone that collects toned Jeffs, those are very rare colors on a 54-S. They usually come with weak strikes but almost never have vivid colorful toning.

The issue you are going to have is getting that coin into a PCGS or NGC slab. If it is mint set toning, which I believe it is, it is unusual on a 54-S which may raise questions in the graders' minds. I have 56,57 and 58 Jeffs with that color but for some reason the 54 Jeffs didnt tone the same.

I would say you have a very nice premium if you can get it in a slab. Ive seen toned Jeffs (non FS MS examples) range from $30 to $200 depending on the intensity of the color and the grade.

leothelyon · September 16, 2015 4:59AM

<< I will take the dissenting opinion here... as someone that collects toned Jeffs, those are very rare colors on a 54-S. They usually come with weak strikes but almost never have vivid colorful toning.

The issue you are going to have is getting that coin into a PCGS or NGC slab. If it is mint set toning, which I believe it is, it is unusual on a 54-S which may raise questions in the graders' minds. I have 56,57 and 58 Jeffs with that color but for some reason the 54 Jeffs didnt tone the same.

I would say you have a very nice premium if you can get it in a slab. Ive seen toned Jeffs (non FS MS examples) range from $30 to $200 depending on the intensity of the color and the grade. >>

Here are some toned 54's;
1954 PCGS MS65
1954-S PCGS MS65

The first coin is what I consider a mint set coin or long storage album coin.

And here is what I consider the best 1954-S out there to own. It has all the details for a collector's coin for the exception of one quarter step. There's not a coin that I'm aware of, not even from the top Registry sets, that can rival this coin.

1954-S PCGS MS66 4.75 steps

Leo

johnny9434 · September 16, 2015 5:10AM

pass, i dont like the toning.

TonerGuy · September 16, 2015 3:44PM

<< 

<< I will take the dissenting opinion here... as someone that collects toned Jeffs, those are very rare colors on a 54-S. They usually come with weak strikes but almost never have vivid colorful toning.

The issue you are going to have is getting that coin into a PCGS or NGC slab. If it is mint set toning, which I believe it is, it is unusual on a 54-S which may raise questions in the graders' minds. I have 56,57 and 58 Jeffs with that color but for some reason the 54 Jeffs didnt tone the same.

I would say you have a very nice premium if you can get it in a slab. Ive seen toned Jeffs (non FS MS examples) range from $30 to $200 depending on the intensity of the color and the grade. >>

Here are some toned 54's;
1954 PCGS MS65
1954-S PCGS MS65

The first coin is what I consider a mint set coin or long storage album coin.

And here is what I consider the best 1954-S out there to own. It has all the details for a collector's coin for the exception of one quarter step. There's not a coin that I'm aware of, not even from the top Registry sets, that can rival this coin.

1954-S PCGS MS66 4.75 steps

Leo >>

Yep those are some of the nicest, cleanest and well struck 54-S I have ever seen. I wouldnt necessary called them toned though. But thats a just a difference in opinion. I like my Jeffs with more vivid colorful toning as opposed to strong strikes or steps. I never got into the FS or any designation for that matter. But those are exceptional coins without question.

Christos · September 16, 2015 4:02PM

here is where the coin resides just waiting for delivery.

mcgrover · September 16, 2015 5:46PM

I'm mildly surprised no one mention the "Black Beauty" nickels, which I have 3 of from 1959, but I've seem many, most from the late '50s. This coin reminds me of that BB toning I've seen - though the coin listed (on eBay?) is suspiciously glossy.

leothelyon · September 16, 2015 5:57PM

<< 

<< 

<< I will take the dissenting opinion here... as someone that collects toned Jeffs, those are very rare colors on a 54-S. They usually come with weak strikes but almost never have vivid colorful toning.

The issue you are going to have is getting that coin into a PCGS or NGC slab. If it is mint set toning, which I believe it is, it is unusual on a 54-S which may raise questions in the graders' minds. I have 56,57 and 58 Jeffs with that color but for some reason the 54 Jeffs didnt tone the same.

I would say you have a very nice premium if you can get it in a slab. Ive seen toned Jeffs (non FS MS examples) range from $30 to $200 depending on the intensity of the color and the grade. >>

Here are some toned 54's;
1954 PCGS MS65
1954-S PCGS MS65

The first coin is what I consider a mint set coin or long storage album coin.

And here is what I consider the best 1954-S out there to own. It has all the details for a collector's coin for the exception of one quarter step. There's not a coin that I'm aware of, not even from the top Registry sets, that can rival this coin.

1954-S PCGS MS66 4.75 steps

Leo >>

Yep those are some of the nicest, cleanest and well struck 54-S I have ever seen. I wouldnt necessary called them toned though. But thats a just a difference in opinion. I like my Jeffs with more vivid colorful toning as opposed to strong strikes or steps. I never got into the FS or any designation for that matter. But those are exceptional coins without question. >>

There was a time, 1990's when ANACS were the only service grading FS Jefferson nickels and every so often while attending a coin show I would see a coin ANACS had encased but labeled having Artificial Colors. And the colors were very odd, too vibrant colors of neon purple, pink and green. From those coins I learned what not to buy, at least not that kind of toning. I need to see the darker gold, heavier crustier type of toning blended in with hints of the brighter colors. This tends to lead me to believe the toning is NT, not AT.

Leo

TonerGuy · September 17, 2015 1:25AM

<< here is where the coin resides just waiting for delivery.

>>

Well that explains it. Its in an aftermarket holder.

If you can get it into a slab and want to sell it just let me know. Thats a unique 54-S Jeff IMHO.

<< There was a time, 1990's when ANACS were the only service grading FS Jefferson nickels and every so often while attending a coin show I would see a coin ANACS had encased but labeled having Artificial Colors. And the colors were very odd, too vibrant colors of neon purple, pink and green. From those coins I learned what not to buy, at least not that kind of toning. I need to see the darker gold, heavier crustier type of toning blended in with hints of the brighter colors. This tends to lead me to believe the toning is NT, not AT. >>

I try to stay away from the more vividly toned raw Jeffs unless I have personally pulled them out of a mint set or aftermarket holder. I think the OP's coin is NT and I doubt highly someone toyed with the Jeff and put it into an aftermarket holder. But I have seen more and more nicely to wildly toned Jeffs making it into PCGS and NGC plastic over the past 5-7 yrs. The "crustier" toning you describe is more prevalent but can be just as beautiful. Some Jeffs I have exhibit beautiful rainbow strands just inside that crusty outer later.

1954-S Nickel Toned, is there a premium for this

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