Jefferson experts: How common are Re-engraved designs of the early Proofs?

Manorcourtman · September 14, 2015 9:41AM

I've been doing some research of Re-engraved 1938, 1952, 1953 and 1954 Proof Jeffersons recently. CONECA lists 5 different 1938 varieties, 4 different 1952 varieties, and one variety for both 53 and 54 Proofs. Are any of these tougher to find? The 38's seem to be somewhat common. Any insights from anyone here? I'd love to hear of others findings!

BigDowgie · September 14, 2015 10:54AM

Manorcourtman,

You are asking the million dollar question that us Jefferson folks want to know and may soon find out! The new Edition of the Cherry Pickers Guide (coming out in a couple weeks) has all of this as new varieties! I am familiar with the 1938s, but not the 1952s, 1953 or 1954. The 1938s are all fairly common from what I have seen. I have a couple already and the other 2 are out there on ebay. I'm in no rush to own them, as the proof series is not a priority. It will be nice to see the other 3 proof dates and what to even look for! It's is interesting to note that Mr. James Wiles is the discoverer of these proof varieties! That's all I have to say about that!

I'm waiting for the business strike variety DDO, DDR and RPM numbers!

Type2 · September 14, 2015 1:33PM

May cost more to have it graded then it will sell for.

lasvegasteddy · September 14, 2015 1:45PM

i have 2 of the 38' re-engraved proofs with one going in soon for grading
i'm not shelling out for the label though even if available to do so

the (3) 1938 proofs i've bought were all for less then $50/a piece raw
i can't help myself there as a 1938 PROOF.....1st year of issue/design......to me are such a buy at such level
i'll start questioning myself if i fill a box of 20

it would be neat if in the future they'd come to age with the re-engraved issue
i'm just not seeing it though

they look great side by side
it would be neat to see a 2 coin special holder for them

CaptHenway · September 14, 2015 2:19PM

Back when I was researching my article on the 1938 proofs with added serifs I think I decided that a coin without any added serifs was the tough one.
TD

lasvegasteddy · September 14, 2015 2:22PM

any other series and this would be a pricey issue...yes...no...?

by the way...no expert here on this series
i just like them lots

Aspie_Rocco · January 10, 2017 1:46PM

This is a topic of great interest, bordering on obsession for me. Jefferson re engraved varieties.

I own several of the 38 varieties, and have found, each different, through visual research, 2-39, 3-40, 1-41, 5-52, 2-53, 2+?-54 varieties. All distinct from a basic design.
4 are in possession at pcgs currently including the only known pr67 1938 403,
This is based on obvious touch ups viewed in photos, personal inventory, and searching sets, etc.

Other pick up points on various years, separate from the ribbon, include lower front of bust, God, Trust, Liberty, Pluribus, and some numerals.

I have seen or own the re engraved marks on business strikes 1938 D reverse and the 39 reverse.
If interested I can post photos or share additional info.
Best wishes,
Rocco

RogerB · January 10, 2017 2:04PM

Depends on your definition of "re-engraved." Most Jefferson proofs from 1938-1942 have some amount of manual touch-up in evidence. Mostly this affects the hair queue. There are several lettering modifications in the same period. When the book "United States Proof Coins 1936-1942" is published in a few weeks, you'll be able to see many examples.

In effect, every time a die was returned to the Engraving Dept. for polishing a new die variety was created.

Aspie_Rocco · January 25, 2017 11:14AM

I have found it more difficult to locate the 1953 and 54 proof varieties than the 38s. There are more out there than listed for sure. Here is an unlisted 1953 re engraved proof with a straight line on bottom side of ribbon st
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Jefferson experts: How common are Re-engraved designs of the early Proofs?

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