You'll be missed, Bob UPDATE: BOB IS BACK!

ReggieCleveland · August 22, 2015 3:24PM

We'll always have Paris.

Arthur

begsu1013 · August 22, 2015 4:02PM

overboard, imo.

Dboneesq · August 22, 2015 4:25PM

+1

skrezyna23 · August 22, 2015 11:14PM

What was Bob's CU name?

lawnmowerman · August 23, 2015 12:37AM

What About Bob?

bishop · August 23, 2015 12:56AM

Bob was AUPT. Longtime former editor of SCD's Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards. If he is unworthy of being here this is not the place for me

dennis07 · August 23, 2015 1:05AM

I've got to agree with the Admin on this one.

Stone193 · August 23, 2015 1:13AM

<< I've got to agree with the Admin on this one. >>

Hiya Dennis

I can understand your point since Bob didn't write anything to go with it and assumed people would get it.

Topps has a long and illustrious history (much like Mad Magazine) of producing satire. Wacky Plaks and Packages, Garbage Pail Kids etc.

That was surely his intent and it didn't resonate in that vain.

I guess many, if they complained, had their Irony Radars down that day?

I will not challenge the Mods on this - there's all kinds of liability that they may be addressing on this one.

What I would like to see the possibility of being addressed? A "Time Out" for Bob and a happy return.

I hope others see it this way?

TNP777 · August 23, 2015 1:25AM

One would think sending a PM to Bob informing him that his 'card' was offensive to some and asking him to remove the image would have done the trick. Bob has done a LOT of good for the hobby.

dtkk49a · August 23, 2015 1:46AM

Soon as I saw it I said to myself "Fired, fired, so fired...."

MULLINS5 · August 23, 2015 1:49AM

I agree with Dennis. Also agree with Mike in hoping it's only a temporary ban. Edit to add: I don't think Bob meant anything bad by the card, but it DEFINITELY did NOT belong here.

BaltimoreYankee · August 23, 2015 1:54AM

Was it a mockup card of flags of the world that appeared here a few days ago?

Stone193 · August 23, 2015 2:08AM

<< Was it a mockup card of flags of the world that appeared here a few days ago? >>

That was it Daniel.

I have to emphasize, it was meant to be satire and not to anger or insult anyone. That's just not Bob.

StamkosFan · August 23, 2015 2:11AM

Hopefully it's just a temporary ban and he just needs to sit in the corner for awhile.
I think after the first couple of responses that came in, Bob should of removed the scanned pic and deleted the entire thread.
While I believe the thread and custom card was made or intended to be humorous; it was simply distasteful and I agree with the mods.

pdub1819 · August 23, 2015 2:27AM

I missed it, what was wrong with the card?

Griffins · August 23, 2015 2:42AM

I wish the same sense of urgency that banned Bob so quickly was rechanneled to logging in submissions.

Dnice · August 23, 2015 2:55AM

As someone who has served in the military, I found it in bad taste but he was aware of the repercussions, especially after the comments came in. Like someone said, hopefully its a little time out and then he will be back.

galaxy27 · August 23, 2015 3:15AM

Bob may be a better man than I could ever hope to be, but that was shockingly poor judgment. Satirical or not, that acronym evokes a broad range of emotions -- many of which should never be experienced on these boards.

When I saw 'behead' translated into Arabic on the back of that piece of cardboard, I didn't know what to do first -- put my fist through a wall or vomit.

charrigan · August 23, 2015 3:20AM

Can someone clearly explain what happened?

Griffins · August 23, 2015 3:53AM

Bob, who is the former editor of the Standard Guide to Baseball Cards, creates cards that never were- players that didn't make sets, updates to old sets, etc. Bob is a purest and the cards he creates are in the exact format of the originals.
He updated the set Flags of the World with a card for ISIS, the Islamic State Calphilate that currently occupies parts of Iraq and Syria. ISIS is known for being a brutal, fundamentalist regime and the card highlighted that, much the way the Horrors of War set depicted atrocities by the Japanese. The post was pulled and Bob was banned.

begsu1013 · August 23, 2015 4:00AM

did it ever get heated?

left to go out for the evening and while words like isis, confederacy and nazi's were brought up, it wasn't a heated thread...

and did not see any disparaging remarks prior. it actually was quite civilized, imo...

again things coulda easily changed, but did not see it if they did...

gregmo32 · August 23, 2015 4:24AM

did anyone save the thread? I did not see it...

Stone193 · September 5, 2015 1:51AM

Hi everyone

Just wanted to mention that Bob has been reinstated here.

Moving forward, I look forward to more of Bob's creations of "cards that never were."

I've seen others do this kind of work - but IMO, Bob's work has been just about the most professional and creative around.

Welcome back Bob - you're in good company in the Bams'R'Us Club.

grote15 · September 5, 2015 2:09AM

<< Hi everyone

Just wanted to mention that Bob has been reinstated here.

Moving forward, I look forward to more of Bob's creations of "cards that never were."

I've seen others do this kind of work - but IMO, Bob's work has been just about the most professional and creative around.

Welcome back Bob - you're in good company in the Bams'R'Us Club.

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+1

bishop · September 5, 2015 2:16AM

+ 2

Stingray · September 5, 2015 3:13AM

+3

ReggieCleveland · September 5, 2015 4:21AM

Bob is back? Ugh. I was just saying those nice things because I thought he was gone for good. There goes the neighborhood.

Arthur

flcardtrader · September 5, 2015 4:21AM

Wow, what a crazy thread.

Glad it has a happy ending for an incredible hobbyist who is human like the rest of us.

I have learned a lot from reading Bob over the years and I am sure he has learned from this.

Welcome back Bob!

dennis07 · September 5, 2015 4:33AM

I am glad he is back as well. One of my first stops on the internet is his blog. Blog

BaltimoreYankee · September 5, 2015 4:38AM

I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades.

cpamike · September 5, 2015 5:10AM

I find Bob to be acceptable.

Seriously, I'm glad Bob is back. Definitely an asset to the hobby!!!

lawnmowerman · September 5, 2015 5:41AM

<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

bishop · September 5, 2015 6:32AM

With you still here Arthur the neighborhood was certainly not in danger of gentrification

ReggieCleveland · September 5, 2015 11:23AM

<< With you still here Arthur the neighborhood was certainly not in danger of gentrification

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There's nothing in the neighborhood group guidelines that says I can't have a weight bench on my front lawn.

Arthur

AUPT · September 6, 2015 12:23AM

I appreciate the sincerity of sentiments expressed . . . both the "good riddance" and the "welcome back."

I don't apologize for creating my Flags of the World Isis card; I sincerely thought that the members of this forum would understand its place in the historic context of the hobby's past.

Posting the card without the "back story" that appeared on my blog seems to have been a mistake on my part. If you want to see the entire package, refer to my blog posting of Aug. 25 blog link and be sure to read the comments section at the bottom.

My thanks to Jackie for the productive conversation and the reinstatement of my forum privileges.

I won't stop expressing myself via my custom cards, but I'll limit my sharing of those that some may find offensive to my own blog.

If you're the politically correct type who goes out of their way to be outraged, you might want to avoid my blog for a couple of weeks because I have another Flags of the World update nearing completion.

TNP777 · September 6, 2015 12:56AM

Welcome back, Bob. Glad you and Jackie had a productive conversation.

SidePocket · September 6, 2015 1:11AM

Agree with your comments on your blog about it being a stain on civilization. We are way too PC these days.

Dboneesq · September 6, 2015 1:40AM

Glad to see you are back Bob. Your Blog has always been fun to read and a place to learn a lot about our hobby.

Stone193 · September 6, 2015 2:55AM

<< I appreciate the sincerity of sentiments expressed . . . both the "good riddance" and the "welcome back."

I don't apologize for creating my Flags of the World Isis card; I sincerely thought that the members of this forum would understand its place in the historic context of the hobby's past.

Posting the card without the "back story" that appeared on my blog seems to have been a mistake on my part. If you want to see the entire package, refer to my blog posting of Aug. 25 blog link and be sure to read the comments section at the bottom.

My thanks to Jackie for the productive conversation and the reinstatement of my forum privileges.

I won't stop expressing myself via my custom cards, but I'll limit my sharing of those that some may find offensive to my own blog.

If you're the politically correct type who goes out of their way to be outraged, you might want to avoid my blog for a couple of weeks because I have another Flags of the World update nearing completion. >>

Good to see you posting Bob.

Keep those cards coming!

bishop · September 6, 2015 3:22AM

Sorry, Bob. You have not been punished enough. You are hereby sentenced to act as editor for SCD for another year.

AUPT · September 6, 2015 4:01AM

Al, I'm afraid I would no longer fit in as editor of SCD. As Matt says, I am a hobby dinosaur and becoming increasingly curmudgeonly.

Under SCD's current ownership, the editor is required to not only edit the bi-weekly, but also to maintain the Standard Catalog of Vintage Cards
and lord knows what else . . . shovel the snow, make the coffee, etc. With so little editorial space available in each issue of SCD, I would be loath to provide coverage to shiny cards or advertiser puff pieces.

Tom Bartsch does a great job considering the unwillingness of the corporate massas to provide resources.

I'll continue to enjoy retirement and use my blog as an outlet for my hobby blather.

mikelowell25 · September 6, 2015 4:40AM

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<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

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He's probably not as old as Mike R!!

lawnmowerman · September 6, 2015 4:53AM

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<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

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He's probably not as old as Mike R!!

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Careful! Mike might get mad at you.....if he could see these small words that is.

mikelowell25 · September 6, 2015 5:00AM

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<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

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He's probably not as old as Mike R!!

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Careful! Mike might get mad at you.....if he could see these small words that is.

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Well, his live-in nurse/aide could always bring him his glasses

mariotown · September 6, 2015 5:19AM

I wrote the last comment on your blog. I think it was actually a very good representation of the "spirit" of those types of sets. If it was watered down to be palatable, it would seem that would be even more offensive. In my opinion, it was very well done for what it was trying to accomplish.

Kevin

perkdog · September 6, 2015 6:07AM

I still have and appreaciate the custom cards I have got from Bob a long time ago and remain one of his biggest fans.

Glad you were reinstated here and although I didnt see your work posted here that offended some people I will certainly check out your blog and applaude you again for your outstanding work.

Keep up the carboard creations Bob and welcome back

cubfan89 · September 6, 2015 7:56AM

People are too sensitive and PC these days. Curt Schilling got suspended for the rest of the baseball season by ESPN because he compared islamic extremists to nazis. You can't even insult terrorists anymore!

Nathaniel1960 · September 6, 2015 11:10AM

Next thing you know we'll be getting Wirt Gammon Sr.'s take on the 12th Imam.

Stone193 · September 6, 2015 1:05PM

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<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

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He's probably not as old as Mike R!!

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Careful! Mike might get mad at you.....if he could see these small words that is.

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Well, his live-in nurse/aide could always bring him his glasses

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Hey!

Don't ya think I look good for 39?

mikelowell25 · September 6, 2015 1:43PM

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<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

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He's probably not as old as Mike R!!

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Careful! Mike might get mad at you.....if he could see these small words that is.

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Well, his live-in nurse/aide could always bring him his glasses

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Hey!

Don't ya think I look good for 39?

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Ha! This pic must've been taken after the national because you didn't have the beard there, only the stache.

Stone193 · September 6, 2015 2:21PM

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<< I'm also happy Bob is back. He has given a lot to the hobby for decades. >>

So what you're really saying is that Bob is super old?

Hi Bob

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He's probably not as old as Mike R!!

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Careful! Mike might get mad at you.....if he could see these small words that is.

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Well, his live-in nurse/aide could always bring him his glasses

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Hey!

Don't ya think I look good for 39?

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Ha! This pic must've been taken after the national because you didn't have the beard there, only the stache. >>

I guess you haven't seen me on my day off David.

You'll be missed, Bob UPDATE: BOB IS BACK!

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