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CICF NEWPS and GTG

PatARPatAR Posts: 347 ✭✭✭
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Following my CICF show report, the masses...err, well...Tibor, demanded pics of newps! Now that I've gotten around to photographing them, I thought I'd add some fun to it by making it a GTG.

First up is the 1859 Frankfurt Am Main Thaler. These are difficult to find in this condition and I've seen fewer still that are as fully lustrous and attractive as this specimen.

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Next is the 1898 Netherlands 1 Gulden. This one year type had a mintage many times greater than the Frankfurt Thaler mentioned above and yet this piece is even more difficult to find in this state of preservation. Most coins of the Netherlands at this time were heavily circulated and very few escaped long years of use in commerce. This piece is intensely lustrous with hints of rainbow ring toning that fade to dark iridescence at the rim. The photos simply cannot do it justice.

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Enjoy!
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Comments

  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Superb coins and images.

    To me the first is a 64 very close to GEM.
    The second I would say 63 given what seems to be a somewhat weaker stike and minor chatter in fields. Great eye appeal.
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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Those are both really lovely, congrats. The reverse on the Frankfurt is spectacular, a little chatter on the obverse so I'll agree with Zohar. But I'd guess at least a 64 on the Netherlands Gulden.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always liked the design on those Frankfurt thalers. I'd GTG on that one to be 64.

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  • nicholasz219nicholasz219 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭
    Pat those are lovely coins. As a sucker for toning, I have to vote up the Netherlands piece. I'm no good at grading in MS grades which is one reason I have never really collected much in the way of US. But they are both lovely.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1859 Frankfurt- I think 64 seems reasonable

    1898 Netherlands- This is a difficult call from the images. I like the look of the coin and suspect it looks better in hand. I am thinking 65 and possibly higher

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  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pat, Thanks for the pics!! That Gulden is really a knockout.
    You did a nice job with the pics. Thanks again.
  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    Very nice coins.
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  • PatARPatAR Posts: 347 ✭✭✭
    I appreciate the feedback and hope you enjoyed the GTG. You folks are quite perceptive! The Thaler is NGC MS64. The Gulden is PCGS MS62+.

    The Gulden is a tough one to grade. These coins have a relatively low relief design to begin with. This coin is quite lustrous in hand, but the darkness at the rim could be considered as suppressing the luster in those areas. That in combination with the light marks would lead me to agree with PCGS.

    Until next time...

    Pat



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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really nice pcs - well graded - I also thought 64..the Gulden belongs in a 63 holder but 62+ is cool! congrats
  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As an average grader, I am pleased with my guesses!
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  • nicholasz219nicholasz219 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭
    Still great pieces PatAR and thanks for the update about the grades. A little chunk o' knowledge for the brain here.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Gulden looks much better on my screen...

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As an average grader, I am pleased with my guesses!

    IDK about that Z!
    You've come along way - I would give yourself a raise my friend.
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