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Is there any list or site with Souvenir set mintages ???

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
I just picked up a large lot of them,
Including a 1979 wide Rim SBA set, 82's & 83's
Almost a complete run of them

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool.

    Are any of the later dates struck on polished planchets. I'm told there are some rare PL's in some of these.

    I'll take a stab at it;

    '71- reported. not confirmed (probably fewer than 100 if any exist)
    '72- 400 each mint
    '73- ~2000
    '74- ~5000 each mint
    '75- ~2500
    '76- ~12,000
    '77- ~10,000
    '78- ~15,000 D ~10,000 P
    '79- ~15,000 each mint
    '80- ~20,000 D ~15,000 P
    '81- ~10,000
    '82- 15,000 D 10,000 P
    '83- 20,000 D 15,000 P
    '84- ~15,000
    '85- ~10,000
    '86- ~5,000
    '87- ~80,000 D ~60,000 P
    '88-'92 ~5,000
    '93- '98 unknown (probably 3,000 to 6,000, or fewer)

    These are based on relative availability and some mint production reports. All these
    mint production reports are open to question as to their accuracy. As secretive as the
    mint is with the regular mint sets they are far moreso with information regarding the
    regular souvenir sets. '82 and '83 issues are probably the only ones available by mail.
    Later issues were available at the mint kiosk in Washington DC. Most of these sets
    were only available by purchase from the mint gift shop at the end of the conducted
    tours though this shop was open to street traffic as well in Denver.

    Quality of the coins in the sets is significantly superior on average to circulation issue
    but not nearly so high as regular mint set quality. Sets were made in batches so there
    are packaging varieties. The bicentennial sets have a unique (possibly) mint token.
    There are no known varieties in any of these regular souvenir sets though there is one
    in the '79 dollar set you mention. The dollar souvenir sets were made in astounding
    numbers (approaching a 1/4 million) except for the '81 which is very low mintage.

    At least up through '94 there was no special care taken for the production of these
    coins. Apparently they just diverted nicer specimens right from the line.
    Tempus fugit.
  • JustMakesCentsJustMakesCents Posts: 319 ✭✭✭
    Is there any site with a price guide?
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there any site with a price guide? >>




    I most seriously doubt it.

    There was a gentleman in Ohio several years ago who tried to
    make a market in these but he was way ahead of his time. Most
    he was selling at 4 to $6 with some up to about 15 if memory serves.
    This was before the '82 and '83 coins went up so high in 1995.

    There are collectors but too few to support much of a market.

    The attrition on these is terrible because dealers say they just
    won't sell at more than a small premium. They end up putting the
    coins in the cash register and selling the token for $1. Of course,
    now days these are the easiest source for the '82 and 83 coins
    so many of these dates are destroyed for collections.

    Edited to add that I googled his name with "souvenir sets" and
    got no relevant hits.
    Tempus fugit.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a 1975 Denver set with the 1974-dated quarter and half, which would mean that it was put up in the first half of the year before they began striking the 1976-dated Bicentennial coins.

    Does anybody know if all 1975 sets are this way, or did they issue additional sets in the second half of the year with the Bicentennial coins?

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • dlmtortsdlmtorts Posts: 742 ✭✭✭
    Alright, I'll show my ignorance. What is a souvenir set? Where do you get them? Are any available for sale anywhere now? I would especially like "82 and "83's but I suspect those arent readily available.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a 1975 Denver set with the 1974-dated quarter and half, which would mean that it was put up in the first half of the year before they began striking the 1976-dated Bicentennial coins.

    Does anybody know if all 1975 sets are this way, or did they issue additional sets in the second half of the year with the Bicentennial coins?
    >>




    I can't recall a second type for 1975.

    These mixed sets are one of the tougher to find.

    I'll look when I get a chance.
    Tempus fugit.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Alright, I'll show my ignorance. What is a souvenir set? Where do you get them? Are any available for sale anywhere now? I would especially like "82 and "83's but I suspect those arent readily available. >>




    They are five piece sets made by the respective mints of all their circulating
    coinage from 1971 or '72 until 1998 inclusive. Most were sold in the gift shops
    at the end of the guided tours. Sales were always poor (except in '87) but
    they were largely to shut up the people who asked for "free samples". They
    cost $4 though. image

    There were also special three piece souvenir sets of dollar coins from '79- '81.

    The Philly sets were in a greenish envelope and the Denver in blue (there are
    variations). They were packaged in pliofilm very similar to regular mint sets
    with a large mint token depicting the mint.

    There were no San Francisco issues though they did sell little bags of cents in
    some of these years.
    Tempus fugit.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have a 1975 Denver set with the 1974-dated quarter and half, which would mean that it was put up in the first half of the year before they began striking the 1976-dated Bicentennial coins.

    Does anybody know if all 1975 sets are this way, or did they issue additional sets in the second half of the year with the Bicentennial coins?
    >>




    I can't recall a second type for 1975.

    These mixed sets are one of the tougher to find.

    I'll look when I get a chance. >>



    Thanks,
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bump for an old thread. I just picked up a group of them while I was visiting back home. 18 sets total. One of them is the 1974/1975 mix.
  • I have the complete set except the 1997 P. I have not heard of or seen any 1971 P or D. There are no 1972 P's that have been listed. Everything I have seen was 1972D to 1998D. As far as the 1975 set, I have had many of them and I have not had one with all 1975's in it. They say that the 1975 coins were not all minted when those souvenir sets were made for the gigt shops so they used 1974's to fill in the sets. I guess it's possible that they made them later in the year with all 1975's, but I have never seen one. The 1972 D set has been listed as 300-400 total sets.
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the ones I bought today was a 97. I need to get them home and look at my other sets and put together a list of what I have and need. I have the 72d at home somewhere.
  • I would be interested in a 1997 P. The 1997 D is not real common, but possible to get.
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Alright, I'll show my ignorance. What is a souvenir set? Where do you get them? Are any available for sale anywhere now? I would especially like "82 and "83's but I suspect those arent readily available. >>




    They are five piece sets made by the respective mints of all their circulating
    coinage from 1971 or '72 until 1998 inclusive. Most were sold in the gift shops
    at the end of the guided tours. Sales were always poor (except in '87) but
    they were largely to shut up the people who asked for "free samples". They
    cost $4 though. image

    There were also special three piece souvenir sets of dollar coins from '79- '81.

    The Philly sets were in a greenish envelope and the Denver in blue (there are
    variations). They were packaged in pliofilm very similar to regular mint sets
    with a large mint token depicting the mint.

    There were no San Francisco issues though they did sell little bags of cents in
    some of these years. >>



    Does anyone know the mintage of the three piece dollar souvenir sets from '79 to '81?

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone know the mintage of the three piece dollar souvenir sets from '79 to '81? >>



    In an old Coin Clinic book by Alan Herbert, he says he has asked the Mint this question several times and was never given an answer.

    He refers to the '79 and '80 PDS sets only.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

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