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Anyone watching the Stacks Taler sale?

ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Some amazing pieces!
Habsburg Talers

TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.

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  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were 3 sede vacante pieces that were all best graded of the respective populations. Unfortunately, I was just a wallflower for this auction. The bamberg went a few hundred lower than I expected, but the cologne and eichstadt did quite well. I think the 1688 cologne piece is one of the top 5 talers in this auction.

    GERMANY. Eichstatt. Taler, 1757-MF. NGC MS-67* <-- this grade is unbelievable
    Eichstadt
    $9693

    GERMANY. Cologne (Koln). Taler, 1688. Sede Vacante. NGC MS-63
    Cologne
    $5581

    GERMANY. Bamberg. Taler, 1693-GFN. Lothar Franz, Freiherr von Schonborn (1693-1729). NGC AU-58
    Bamberg
    $1880


  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lot 623 was amazing.
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the MS-67*

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    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The ms-67 certainly has a more crisp strike than my ms-63. If you can get past the toning then it really is an extraordinary coin.

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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yours is super nice and evenly toned. The 67 is a very busy coin. Having seen it in hand, it is not for everyone but certainly one of a kind.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps my favorite taler in the auction.

    GERMANY. Saxe-Weimar. Taler, 1654. Wilhelm IV (1640-62). NGC MS-63

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  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rounding out my top favorites in this auction:

    GERMANY. Saxony. Albertine Line. Taler, 1687. Johann Georg III (1680-91). NGC AU-58

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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is mine - GERMANY. Fulda. Taler, 1672. Bernhard Gustav Adolf (1671-77). NGC MS-66.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    Zohar: <<Some amazing pieces!>>

    Yes, IMO, the sale of the Rockaway Collection was one of the highlights of the week. I was captivated.

    WorldCoinGuy: <<Lot 623 was amazing.>> Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel. Taler, 1702

    This is one of the coins that I wrote about.

    The Rockaway Collection of Silver German Coins, mostly Talers

    Proof British Gold Coins star in New York
    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent job discussing the merits of an MS-67 grade and the significance.

    How many collections of this quality and magnitude are locked away in paper envelopes across Europe waiting to see the light of day?

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps my favorite taler in the auction.

    GERMANY. Saxe-Weimar. Taler, 1654. Wilhelm IV (1640-62). NGC MS-63

    agreed!

    The 67* looks too artsy - can't explain my feeling about it - its awesome yet...

    Z you won/got that Fulda piece? - that's an amazing piece too wow!..unsure its a 66 looks 65 tops but who cares at that level ye know.
  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No I didn't bid on these.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    WorldCoinGuy:<<Excellent job discussing the merits of an MS-67 grade and the significance. >>

    Thanks

    Let us not forget Eric Newman's amazing Two Taler from Emden:

    The Fabulous Eric Newman Collection, part 9: European Coins

    MarcMoish: <<Zohar, you won/got that Fulda piece? - that's an amazing piece too wow!..unsure its a 66 looks 65 tops but who cares at that level ye know. >>

    I understand Marc's comment. IF I remember correctly, the Fulda coin had the eye appeal that experts would tend to associate with a five, though fulfills the technical criteria for a 67 grade. After considering its originality as well, the assigned 66 grade is accurate, again if I am fairly remembering the coin, which I recollect as being excellent.

    WorldCoinGuy<<How many collections of this quality and magnitude are locked away in paper envelopes across Europe waiting to see the light of day? >>

    Unconfirmed rumors suggest that this consignment came from a source in the United States. Traditionally, collectors in German speaking societies, on average, have not been nearly as concerned about quality as collectors in the U.S. I hope that there are many collections of high quality, vintage coins in Europe that have been 'off the market' for decades, though I would not count on this being true. I was pleasantly stunned by the Rockaway Collection; the originality and surface quality of many of the Talers are exemplary.

    Do members of this forum recollect seeing commensurable collections of Talers or other European Crowns from past centuries?
    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
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