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Would "Attempted Repair" be a better slab designation than "Repaired"?

I don't believe that a damaged coin can truly be repaired. Am open though to your thoughts.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe just "Repair". That would leave it open to determine on one's own to decide if it was a complete or attempted repair. It still alerts to an alteration which is ultimately
    the problem.

    Or maybe just "Altered"

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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    Attempted repair may be accurate but it's two words
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't believe that a damaged coin can truly be repaired. Am open though to your thoughts. >>



    My thought is that you have an original unopened can of worms. image
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Attempted" is nine letters, and with space a
    factor on most slab tags, there's probably better
    words/descriptions that can be used in those
    nine spaces....

    It's like 'clipped planchet' vrs. incomplete planchet'.

    I agree that a coin can't be repaired to it's original state
    if there's damage; it is an attempt to repair the damage.

    Collectors knows what 'repaired' means - an attempt
    was made to repair damage on a coin......


    Just my two cents worth......


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  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭
    Ultimately I don't think it adds much except for letters.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the point is that "repaired" has implications that all is well, when that is far from the case. Perhaps no term should be used at all, so that the cause for the repair can be the focus of the reason the coin is a problem coin.

    On the other hand, repair in other collectibles fields has just as negative of a connotation, so maybe it's an entirely appropriate and universally acceptable term that never implies that all is well.
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Damage" is sufficient.
    If other designations are necessary, let them be fee based.
    So if a guy wants specifics, it's like the old Presidential Review. If a problem coin commands that much attention, it should be worthy of all the trouble needed to express it on the label, and as such, oh never mind. Sometimes the questions make me crazier than thinking out and typing the answer in the time it took me to ponder it.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    Quest. color

    two words, ten letters.

    Atmpt repair, eleven letters. It should work.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ultimately I don't think it adds much except for letters. >>



    Agree. It's all just semantics.

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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Ultimately I don't think it adds much except for letters. >>



    Agree. It's all just semantics. >>



    To those with experience, that is correct. To those that are new to the hobby it could be an unintended trap. I see several repaired coins on Ebay that are at close to problem free pricing.

    Tuition for the newbs I suppose.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You know what would be nice? If the link to the cert number (for coins which the adjectives "matter", meaning coins of sustantial value) brought with it, not only a trueview pic, but an expert opinion on the many dimensions of the coin in question, such as the quality of the strike, the significance of any marks or other flaws, the quality of the surfaces, the apparent legitimacy of the color and other "stuff done to it" type of work.

    The binary nature of "number" vs "genuine/details" and the binary nature of other"made it or not" designations like FH, FBL, etc make the gray areas need more words to accurately characterize the coin in question (again, only for coins for which this effort and therefore cost would be "worth it") and as said, there's no room on the slab.

    As it stands, the closest thing we have is the sticker, which indicates the opinion, roughly, "nice for the grade, we'd buy it as such"

    To split this particular hair by adding "attempted" does nothing for me, because, always, "it depends"

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
    attempted repair might mean worse as well snafu ya know. just saying.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What about many levels? Among repair skill, there could be, Expert, decent, amateur, and "what a mess!"

    How about degree? There could be Major, significant, minor, and "where's the repair?"

    What about impact on value? There could be one grade level drop in value, two grades, three grades, more grades, reduce value to melt, and reduce value to zero. Some "repairs" might even <gasp> increase the value (but not to the haughty-toities who don't like any problems except the ones they do like and just "pass" on anything imperfect.

    I've seen SEGS slabs that had concise notations such as "expert repair" or "smoothed right field" etc.

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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What about many levels? Among repair skill, there could be, Expert, decent, amateur, and "what a mess!" >>



    Attempt to repair a hole for example at any level of expertise that you wish. The damaged original metal of the coin does not change.

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